Helsby to Coventry routing query

[raveon]

Hi, I am intending to travel from Helsby to Coventry on an Anytime Return ticket (Route: Any Permitted) but can't get any online planner to give me a route via Warrington Bank Quay, however Warrington Group is listed as an associated routing point for Helsby in the "pink pages", so therefore should be a valid route? Hopefully someone can clarify? Many thanks.

 

[Alex365Dash]

Not every associated routing point to a station is universally permitted to be used - you need to undergo a NFM64 fares check to determine which routeing points are valid for your journey, as described below.

If you are unsure whether a particular routeing point for the origin station is the correct one compare the historic National Fares Manual data from September 1996 (NFM64) fare from that routeing point to the destination with the fare for the throughout journey - it is an appropriate routeing point only if that fare is the same or lower than the fare for the throughout journey from the origin station to the destination station.

Follow the same procedure if you are not certain that a particular routeing point for the destination station is the correct one. Compare the fare from that routeing point to the origin station with the fare for the throughout journey - it is an appropriate routeing point only if that NFM64 fare is the same or lower than the fare for the throughout journey from the origin station to the destination station.

All fares comparisons must be made using one of the following NFM64 single ticket types:
• Standard Open Single (SOS)
• Standard Day Single (SDS)
• Saver Single (SVS)
• Cheap Day Single (CDS)
In exceptional circumstances, due to local fares policies, a direct comparison may not be possible. If this is the case and the origin station or destination station has a lower fare of the type selected than all its routeing points, the Standard Single (Day or Open) fares should be used for comparison purposes. […]

Alternatively the Routeing Point Calculator can be consulted. This can be found in the Routeing Guide at Help and Instructions, between Section B (Pink Pages) and Section C (Yellow Pages). This tool will calculate eligible routeing points for a specific origin and destination. It also applies fare route data and appropriate easements from Section E (Easements). The tool will show the first station of a Routeing Point Group that a journey must go via, before passing subsequent stations within that Routeing Point Group.

As per the last paragraph, if you don’t want to have to go through working out the NFM64 fares yourself, the Routeing Point Calculator is also available instead.

The valid routeing points from Helsby for your particular journey are Runcorn and Chester, as Warrington Bank Quay fails the NFM64 fares check.

 

[raveon]

Ah, thanks for explaining.

 

[sonic2009]

Have you already purchased the ticket? As options may be available to split your tickets if you wish to travel via Warrington.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Warrington Bank Quay is a valid routeing point from Frodsham - Coventry if you can go from there.

 

[raveon]

Haven't purchased yet so will go from Frodsham - thanks.

 

[sonic2009]

Have sent you a message @raveon