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HELP, I got a single justice procedure letter without being stopped by an inspector!!!

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Tetchytyke

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Thanks, I missed that.

Makes it even worse, really. How is anyone supposed to know what’s being alleged from that information? Definitely makes my advice more valid- the OP must not lie but is perfectly entitled to state they do no know from the information provided what the matter refers to and to ask for more information.
 
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Thanks, I missed that.

Makes it even worse, really. How is anyone supposed to know what’s being alleged from that information? Definitely makes my advice more valid- the OP must not lie but is perfectly entitled to state they do no know from the information provided what the matter refers to and to ask for more information.
This is the standard TfL verification letter. It’s arguably the worst of all the standard letters sent to people with ticketing irregularities.
 

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The lack of information on the letter didn’t help either, as all I was given was a date and that I apparently committed an offence on that date.
The letter actually says that "On Friday 7th June you were reported to TfL for an offence on a TfL public transport network." It doesn't say the offence took place then, unless that is splitting hairs. Maybe someone in a back office was compiling evidence against you and by 7th June they had completed their investigations and passed them on to TfL. Or it's a fishing trip. Maybe you should respond asking for more details since you do not remember any incident on that day / you did not travel on the TfL network that day, and that without further details you are not in a position to respond.
 

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The letter actually says that "On Friday 7th June you were reported to TfL for an offence on a TfL public transport network." It doesn't say the offence took place then, unless that is splitting hairs. Maybe someone in a back office was compiling evidence against you and by 7th June they had completed their investigations and passed them on to TfL. Or it's a fishing trip. Maybe you should respond asking for more details since you do not remember any incident on that day / you did not travel on the TfL network that day, and that without further details you are not in a position to respond.
Standard TfL practice if they have collected digital evidence of fare evasion is to revenue block a commonly used station at a time they believe the perpetrator will be using it.

It is unheard of for them to contact someone without stopping them to gather details. If they had a registered Oyster card it’s possible through this, but what’s to say it’s up to date? Or than the registered person is the person using it.

To get a bank to give their details the BTP would probably need to get involved, as whether TfL is a ‘relevant authority’ is debatable, and banks in particular are very wary of privacy laws.

In summary it’s very unlikely this is a fishing expedition or a larger operation. I repeat my perilous advice to the OP, deny being stopped but don’t lie. If they have contacted you without stopping you they probably have evidence of a significant amount of fare evasion, and TfL would almost definitely take you to court regardless
 
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