Heaton Class 158 diagrams in early 90's

[northernrailer]

I came across some pictures in a magazine of some Heaton 3 car class 158 units working out of Chester along the North Wales Coast in the early 90`s, i just wondered if this was normal for Heaton 3 car class 158 units to operate such services back then.

Also i came across an original Regional Railways Eastern Destination Codes list i was given, that was used by Heaton depot and it covers the North East, North West and North Wales and will this have been the same code list used by the class 158 units that were allocated to Newton Heath depot in Manchester??

 

[gimmea50anyday]

I came across some pictures in a magazine of some Heaton 3 car class 158 units working out of Chester along the North Wales Coast in the early 90's, i just wondered if this was normal for Heaton 3 car class 158 units to operate such services back then.

Also i came across an original Regional Railways Eastern Destination Codes list i was given, that was used by Heaton depot and it covers the North East, North West and North Wales and will this have been the same code list used by the class 158 units that were allocated to Newton Heath depot in Manchester??

Wow, keep hold of that!!! Although all 158's have the same destination codes programmed. different regions would not have bothered listing destinations they didn't serve on their lists they were all capable of displaying Penzance, Salisbury, Manchester, Newcastle, Inverness, Carmarthen, stranraer, mystery tour...
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As for unit allocations it was not uncommon for entire classes to be based at one depot much as today. I.e east coast 91's are bounds are bounds green whereas 43's are craigentinny, northern 156's are all allocated to allerton whereas 142's are allocated Heaton as their Home Depot. They will still get serviced and maintained at whatever depot they were sent to that night tho as required.

 

[142094]

158s were used on the former Sunderland - Manchester Airport (or might have been Liverpool) Transpennine services.

Northern at one point had some 158s up here in the late 2000s, but they didn't last too long.

 

[northernrailer]

I have also uploaded copies of the Original (Scotrail, Central, Western codes).

There was only 4 Regions so they had - Eastern codes, Western Codes, Central Codes, Scotrail Codes.

Hope some people find these useful.

 

[westcoaster]

I wonder which ones the silver link 321's used as they had nearly everything on there iirc 143 was intercity 014 or 016 was barking or Bedford.

 

[sprinterguy]

158s were used on the former Sunderland - Manchester Airport (or might have been Liverpool) Transpennine services.

The seventeen 3-car class 158 units were ordered specifically for the Newcastle to Liverpool services, which had previously been loco-hauled utilising class 47s and mark 2s (And class 45 "Peaks" before that, I believe), and hence were allocated to Heaton depot. Of course, they did also see use on other Transpennine North corridors, such as the Middlesbrough to Manchester Airport services.

I would say that even in the early nineties it would therefore have been quite unusual to see one of the 3-car class 158s so far afield as Chester and the North Wales Coast.

The change to Manchester Airport as the destination of the Newcastle services is a very recent thing in comparison that only came about after First Group had taken over the newly-separated Transpennine franchise in 2004.
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As for unit allocations it was not uncommon for entire classes to be based at one depot much as today. I.e east coast 91's are bounds are bounds green whereas 43's are craigentinny, northern 156's are all allocated to allerton whereas 142's are allocated Heaton as their Home Depot. They will still get serviced and maintained at whatever depot they were sent to that night tho as required.

The 158s were always intended for separate groups of services though, and allocated as such: The 158 fleet has always been split across several different depots dependant on their intended sphere of operation, with the 3-car units fairly wedded to their intended Transpennine North duties as far as I know.

 

[Bevan Price]

Without checking old timetables, I can't remember when they finished, but until about the early 1990s, some Trans Pennine services ran to North Wales. Once I even saw a 142 on a Hull - Holyhead service.

 

[30907]

As Bevan Price says, there was a brief period towards the end of TP loco haulage when trains that had previously terminated at Manchester (?Liverpool, can't check now) were extended 2-hourly to N Wales, which would account for those destinations being included even though the service had ceased.

 

[Bevan Price]

As Bevan Price says, there was a brief period towards the end of TP loco haulage when trains that had previously terminated at Manchester (?Liverpool, can't check now) were extended 2-hourly to N Wales, which would account for those destinations being included even though the service had ceased.

In the mid 1980s, the Manchester - Liverpool section of the Trans Pennine route was mostly reduced from hourly to 2-hourly, instead of alternate trains terminating at Manchester, many were extended to North Wales.

In the 1986 summer timetable, (eastbound), on SX, there were (loco-hauled)
08:17 Holhead - Newcastle.
11:12 Bangor - Newcastle
13:00, 15:16 Bangor - York
17:03 Holyhead - York.

By summer 1988, some trains were identified as Sprinters, and (eastbound again), there were :
07:07, 11:18, 13:18, 17:16, 19:18 Chester - Hull
06:42 Llandudno - Hull
08:58 Wrexham - Hull
08:06, 13:22 Holyhead - Hull
10:50, 12:50, 14:47, 18:50 Bangor - Hull
17:00 Llandudno - Hull
21:18 Chester - Leeds

All had disappeared by 1990, (coinciding, I think, with diversion of Trans Pennine services via Manchester Piccadilly & Warrington Central), initially replaced by Stalybridge - North Wales services, then for a while, Wakefield Kirkgate - North Wales services (probably an operational convenience, linking the Stalybridge or Wakefield - Manchester Victoria all stations services to the North Wales services.

 

[Batman]

The is one reasons why the WG shouldn't take over franchising responsibilities, in the hope that services like this could one day return, instead of the politically motivated North-South Wales service.

 

[krus_aragon]

I'm intrigued at location 369 Llandudno Junction (Lyff). I can only assume that 'Lyff' is some strange combination of 'Cyffordd' and 'Llandudno'...