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guardin_state

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Hi,

Little advice needed, bought a ticket from 'heathrow rail' (code:h584) to 'gatwick' however the route says '+southern only'

How can this be? As far as I'm aware southern don't run any services from Heathrow.. correct me if I'm wrong.

Will I be ok using my ticket from heathrow to get to London piccadilly?

Cheers
 
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Interesting question. I had no idea this fare even existed.

If you go to www.southernrailway.com and enter Heathrow, one of the options that comes up is Heathrow Rail. The fare is £39 single and various expensive return fares are also offered.

Quite clearly it is Heathrow Express that is offered (and not Heathrow Connect). It's not valid from Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line. You must travel to Paddington by Heathrow Express then by tube to Victoria.

From Victoria it is "Southern trains only" but that ought to allow travel on Gatwick Express, which is operated by Southern although you might be challenged; all connections offered by Southern on their website using this fare are on trains other than Gatwick Express.

Journey time is in the order of 1 hour 45 minutes.

If you make this journey again, consider taking Bus 285 (from T1/2/3) or 490 (T4/5) to Feltham station and the train to Clapham Junction, changing there for Gatwick.

Journey time is similar (depending on connections) and while the bus journey is not the best, no steps are involved during the entire journey and you can use an Oyster card to pay a reduced bus fare.

To save time, if you hold an Oyster card you can travel free to Hatton Cross by Piccadilly Line then take either bus from there to Feltham, but that may involve steps while exiting Hatton Cross station.

Via Feltham is very much cheaper (especially the off-peak fares) and avoids using the tube or going through Central London. When you board the bus, you can pay then ask the driver to let you board through the central doors with your suitcase. There are lifts at both Feltham and Clapham Junction.

In the opposite direction, i.e. to Heathrow, you can buy a Gatwick to Zones 1-6 Travelcard at £15.80 which will allow any (Southern) train to Clapham Junction then travel to Feltham and also cover the onward bus fare to Heathrow.

If you are making a return journey within one month the Feltham route is also very cost effective.
 

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Or just take the coach - NX and others run loads of coaches between the two and end to end are most probably quicker
 

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The plus symbol (Maltese Cross) denotes that a cross-London transfer on London Underground is also included. I believe the intention is to take the tube to Victoria, however this is a bit of a botch as NRE doesn't list Heathrow as a valid station to begin a cross-London transfer at.

Edit: Looks like this is actually not the intention
 
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If travelling by tube from Heathrow to Victoria a Zone U1256 London to Gatwick Airport Anytime Single is £18.90 (Southern only), £16.00 (FCC only), £19.10 (Not Gatwick Express) or £24.60 (Any Permitted). Obviously the FCC only fare would mean travelling on the underground to Blackfriars and picking up an FCC service from there.
 
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Any ticket to London Terminals can be sold as a ticket to Heathrow Rail with the appropriate add-on fare (£24 single £40 return). The add-on can also be sold on TOC specific tickets, in this case it is still valid on Heathrow Express and LU transfer, the TOC restriction only applies from London to the destination.
 

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It is a ticket to Heathrow sing Heathrow Express. The add-on fare for a single to Heathrow Airport is £24. (and is available to be added to any single to London- with LU transfer included)
A Southern Only single from Gatwick to Victoria is £15 plus the add-on £39.
 

globetrotter

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I assume we are talking here about the "Heathrow Rail" fare at £39 single.

If you go on the Southern website you clearly see that the route is via Paddington. I don't know if that's the only (permitted) route, but all trains shown are only to Paddington, then Victoria Line to Victoria and Southern to Gatwick. 16 minute journey Heathrow to Paddington.

"Valid on all services by the route and Train Operator shown. Valid 1 day only."

It does NOT appear to be valid on the Piccadilly Line.

And if I choose the option "Avoid Paddington", "No fares have been found for your selected journey."
 

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The ticket is valid on the Heathrow Express between Heathrow and Paddington, by Underground between Paddington and Victoria and then by Southern Trains only between Victoria and Gatwick.

Travel on the Heathrow Express is very expensive and I was simply pointing out that there are cheaper ways, although you would have to use the Underground throughout from Heathrow to Victoria.
 

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Hi,

Little advice needed, bought a ticket from 'heathrow rail' (code:h584) to 'gatwick' however the route says '+southern only'

How can this be? As far as I'm aware southern don't run any services from Heathrow.. correct me if I'm wrong.

Will I be ok using my ticket from heathrow to get to London piccadilly?

Cheers

This ticket is NOT valid on the Piccadilly Line from Heathrow. If you want to use the Piccadilly line from Heathrow you need to buy a U1256 London - Gatwick ticket.

The ticket Heathrow Rail - Gatwick routed 'Southern Only' is valid on Heathrow Express services from Heathrow to Paddington. From Paddington it is valid on London Underground to Victoria where you can get your Southern train to Gatwick.
 

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An even cheaper one which a retired friend used who lives near Heathrow (he has a bus pass not a Freedom pass) Was the X26 from Heathrow Central bus station to East Croydon (free) then just paid from East Croydon to Gatwick. Said it worked fine
 
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