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Heathrow Expansion plans

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'The central problem lies with the hub-and-spoke model itself, which assumes that Heathrow will attract more business and be more efficient if it acts as an interchange for passengers en route to other destinations. This model was pioneered by Federal Express in the 1970s, when the postal firm began flying packages from a central hub in Memphis.

When the US passenger airline industry was deregulated in 1978, the big airlines followed the FedEx model to fend off new, low-cost airlines. However, people are not parcels; missed connections, lost baggage and delayed flights created inefficiencies, contributing to the bankruptcy of almost every US airline.

Nonetheless, European airlines with similar motives have spent billions trying to follow suit. In the 1990s the French government opted to subsidise Air France and then built a new hub at Charles de Gaulle. It has four full-size runways and by 2010 will have more than 700,000 flights a year. Amsterdam now has five runways. However, in Europe too there have been failures or near-failures, including Sabena, Alitalia and Swissair.

The most commercially successful airlines - Ryanair, easyJet and SouthWest - have all rejected the hub model and flown passengers direct to their destinations. And yet BAA and the government seem not to have learnt from these lessons. For Grupo Ferrovial, the owner of BAA, this is perhaps not surprising.'

Bob Ayling, former chief exec of British airways

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3867768.ece


A leading British airline has criticised the Government’s decision to build a third runway at Heathrow.

Tim Jeans, managing director of Monarch Airlines, said that the expansion of the airport would have a detrimental impact on the lives of a million people living in west London, and would prevent the aviation industry from being taken seriously over environmental issues.

He added that the Government’s reliance on new technology to reduce emissions was “highly optimistic”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...hrow-decision-criticised-by-airline-boss.html
 
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But with people valuing the life of animals over themselves, do you think that the destruction of wildlife in a brownfield site is better than that of relocating a few families who already live next door to one of the worlds busiest airports?
Well, I meant "brownfield" site as in "industrial wasteland", with the intention that such an airport would be built somewhere that would be unlikely to support a range of natural life, as opposed to using agricultural land or - Worse still - Green belt. :shock:8)

'The central problem lies with the hub-and-spoke model itself, which assumes that Heathrow will attract more business and be more efficient if it acts as an interchange for passengers en route to other destinations. This model was pioneered by Federal Express in the 1970s, when the postal firm began flying packages from a central hub in Memphis.

When the US passenger airline industry was deregulated in 1978, the big airlines followed the FedEx model to fend off new, low-cost airlines. However, people are not parcels; missed connections, lost baggage and delayed flights created inefficiencies, contributing to the bankruptcy of almost every US airline.
Under my proposal, the matter of airport choice wouldn't come into the equasion - As once this "super airport" had been constructed and the XHSR links opened and verified as working properly, all other airports would be closed down, demolished (Except for their landside terminal buildings and infrastructure, which would be retained and converted to XHSR link stations), and the surplus airport land would either be reserved for conversion back to natural habitat, or sold off for future development. :)

Personally, I cannot see why passengers could have a cause to complain with this arrangement anyway. As the XHSR links would be included in the cost of thy airport tax anyway (Thus no extra fares to be paid on day of travel) and the maximum journey time on the shuttle (Say, from Aberdeen to Birmingham) wouldn't take more than 20 minutes - Any missed flights would have to be the passengers fault for not allowing enough time for the reasonable journey to the airport! :shock:

The most commercially successful airlines - Ryanair, easyJet and SouthWest - have all rejected the hub model and flown passengers direct to their destinations.
As a long-term Ryanair passenger, I have to say that they don't quite fly direct to their destinations...Pisa excepted. Mind ye though, I've never had a problem with their Remote but cheap approach to airport selection, though! 8)

And what is that supposed to mean?!
It's stated directly underneath thy username in every post ye make! :D
Although I now have to confess to being a bit of an egit in this case. I thought that was his custom user title, not his post-count defined one! :lol:
 

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do you think that the destruction of wildlife in a brownfield site is better than that of relocating a few families who already live next door to one of the worlds busiest airports?

I guess this means you don't understand what a brownfield site is.

If you were to build an airport on a brownfield site, it would destroy very little wildlife as brownfield sites are ones that have been built on previously and are often just wasteland.
Compare this to relocating people; who would not want to be relocated onto a brownfield site, and would almost definately end up with houses being built on a greenfield site (ie, one that hasn't been built on previously) which would destroy more of a natural habitat than building an airport on a brownfield site.
So, it's airport on brownfield or houses on greenfield, one or the other. And knowing that the airport would destroy less natural habitat, I would go for that option personally.
 
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