Harrogate line route allowence

[wilbur1985]

There is a plpr due down the harrogate and i'm wondering if it will be a hst or a class 37?

 

[jfollows]

PLPR?

 

[wilbur1985]

Yes?

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This is it's path https://railcam.uk/rcdata/RCData2_detail.php?r=S&sid=7036493

 

[Mcr Warrior]

PLPR?

PLPR = "Plain line pattern recognition".

= Network Rail measurement train used to identify / take photos, as the train passes over, of potential track defects.

Usually such trains are in a distinctive "banana yellow" livery.

 

[wilbur1985]

But what is the route allowence down there?

 

[CDM Transport]

But what is the route allowence down there?

The route allowance is RA5 but what you are trying to ask is if class 43s can go on the line.

 

[Geeves]

HSTs and 37s have certainly been down there plenty of times.

 

[_toommm_]

What day is that due to run please? I'm struggling to see a date in the link.

 

[swt_passenger]

What day is that due to run please? I'm struggling to see a date in the link.

Tu for Tuesday- a few lines below the headcode box, which seems to be this one on RTT:

Realtime Trains | 1Q18 1930 Doncaster C.H.S. to Selby | 04/02/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Q18 1930 departure from Doncaster C.H.S. to Selby on 04/02/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Yorkshire09876]

HSTs and 37s have certainly been down there plenty of times.

There used to be a daily HST in each direction between Harrogate and London, via Leeds. Not sure if I've ever seen an HST between Harrogate and York - I have seen loco-hauled Mk3a stock, with 67s, on that section.

 

[_toommm_]

Tu for Tuesday- a few lines below the headcode box, which seems to be this one on RTT:

Realtime Trains | 1Q18 1930 Doncaster C.H.S. to Selby | 04/02/2025

Real-time train running information for 1Q18 1930 departure from Doncaster C.H.S. to Selby on 04/02/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Thank you, for some reason I couldn't find it on RTT.

 

[Class15]

Keep an eye out for 1Q60 Derby RTC Serco - Gascoigne Wood Down Loop on Monday. Should form off that.

 

[CDM Transport]

Sorry my bad, I believe the line is RA7 or 9

 

[CDM Transport]

There used to be a daily HST in each direction between Harrogate and London, via Leeds. Not sure if I've ever seen an HST between Harrogate and York - I have seen loco-hauled Mk3a stock, with 67s, on that section.

I believe the HST UTU test goes up to Knaresborough from Doncaster but does not continue down the Harrogate - York line

 

[_toommm_]

I believe the HST UTU test goes up to Knaresborough from Doncaster but does not continue down the Harrogate - York line

That sounds about right from memory. When it was last up here, either the HST, or the train infront, suffered severely from adhesion issues and lost 45 minutes between Knaresborough and Horsforth-ish.

 

[jfollows]

Sorry my bad, I believe the line is RA7 or 9

It’s RA8 per the sectional appendix, https://sacuksprodnrdigital0001.blob.core.windows.net/sectional-appendix/Sectional Appendix full PDFs December 24/London North Eastern (NCS) Sectional Appendix December 2024.pdf, page 752 onwards.

In other words, locomotives and rolling stock with RA9 or RA10 would not be allowed without special exemption and possible speed limits.

 

[High Dyke]

It's scheduled to be top & tailed Class 37.

 

[CDM Transport]

37057 and 37219 booked to work this.

 

[wilbur1985]

What will happen to the Harrogate line PLPR (Plain line pattern recognition) train?

The other services that should form it were cancelled, so I am assuming that it has been cancelled?

 

[CDM Transport]

What will happen to the Harrogate line PLPR (Plain line pattern recognition) train?

The other services that should form it were cancelled, so I am assuming that it has been cancelled?

It will most likely be sent back out from the RTC as a positioning move to Doncaster CHS where it will prepare for 1Q18 (the test you are asking about). Loco allocations may differ however.

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43251 and 272 booked to work 1Z18 then 1Q18

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It will most likely be sent back out from the RTC as a positioning move to Doncaster CHS where it will prepare for 1Q18 (the test you are asking about). Loco allocations may differ however.

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43251 and 272 booked to work 1Z18 then 1Q18

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