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GWR FARE EVASION/ SETTLEMENT ADVICE

womanaire

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On 16 May 2026 I travelled from Stroud to Paddington without a valid ticket. When I arrived at Paddington, I spoke to a member of staff at the barriers and explained that I had lost my ticket and offered to buy a new one. I was then taken aside by another member of staff.

I was in a rush and initially gave Reading as my departure station because I panicked about being asked to pay the full fare again. When the inspector asked me to tell him the truth, I admitted that I had actually travelled from Stroud and explained why I had panicked. I also explained that I had been off work since the beginning of the year following a serious back injury and was struggling financially.


The conversation was very informal and friendly and he made it seem as though he was helping me, the convo was considerably longer than a couple of minutes. We talked about my circumstances and and had a friendly conversation. I genuinely came away feeling that he understood my situation and was trying to help me. He told me he would explain everything to the relevant team and see what he could do, and he even gave me a ticket for my return journey home.


I therefore didn’t realise that I was being formally interviewed or that I was potentially facing prosecution. I only became aware that there was a formal financial consequence when he mentioned that I would receive a letter. I remember asking whether I was being fined and saying that I would rather just pay for a new ticket.


GWR have now told me that I was formally cautioned at 12:06, confirmed that I understood the caution, and that the interview terminated at 12:08. I have absolutely no recollection of being formally cautioned or being told that I was being interviewed under caution.


The timing is particularly confusing to me because my recollection is that the interaction itself was considerably longer than those two minutes and that it was informal throughout. I don’t want to claim that I definitely wasn’t cautioned when I may simply not have understood what was happening, but I am very surprised by GWR’s account and would like to understand what their records actually show.

I was initially offered a £320 settlement. I contacted GWR before the original deadline asking for the case to be reviewed, and they subsequently reinstated the £320 offer for another week. Unfortunately, I completely missed that second deadline and only realised when I logged into the payment portal to pay it, by which point it had increased to £410.

I’ve now emailed asking them to reinstate the £320 because I’m currently in a very difficult financial position after being off work for around eight months and £410 is simply unaffordable for me.


I’m looking for advice on:
  1. Whether it’s worth getting legal advice regarding the alleged formal interview/caution.
  2. Whether I should ask GWR for a copy of the revenue protection report/interview record and any bodycam footage.
  3. Whether there is any realistic chance of getting the £320 settlement reinstated again.
  4. What the likely consequences would be if I can’t afford the £410 and GWR decide to prosecute.

Any advice from people familiar with GWR/revenue protection procedures would be really appreciated.
 
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AlterEgo

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Whether you were cautioned is moot; it is not in dispute that you were ticketless and owe them money. This is going to be made up of the Anytime fare plus their admin fee. Is there an explanation of why *more* money has been added? The Conditions of Travel do not give them the right to do this without explanation.

If you want to pursue the caution matter you could ask for any Body Worn Video under a subject access request provided the company still has that video (they might not, it's been a long time). But it will not change the fundamentals - you need to pay them for the journey and the company has a right to change an administration fee in these circumstances. Your only wiggle room really is around why the fee has seemingly increased.

If you are prosecuted, which is unlikely if you cooperate with them, you will be prosecuted under the Railway Bylaws most likely. You will get convicted too, as you committed the offence as soon as you boarded the train. This is a strict liability offence like speeding. Your intent does not come into it. You would then have to pay the fare, plus GWR's costs, plus a court surcharge and your sentence will be a fine on top of that which is linked to your income.
 

Mcr Warrior

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Whether you were cautioned is moot; it is not in dispute that you were ticketless and owe them money. This is going to be made up of the Anytime fare plus their admin fee. Is there an explanation of why *more* money has been added?
An Anytime Day Single from Stroud to London Paddington is £105.00. Not sure why £320.00 (now £410.00 ?) is/was being requested. Makes the administration fee, if for this one journey, seem high. How might this have been calculated / determined? Have GWR also charged another £105.00 for the return journey?
 

Swedenorer

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They have until 16th November to prosecute you. You could ask them to explain their demand but the fact that you are in financial difficulties will have little influence in what they ask for. It seems to me reading the OP that they asked for 2 x Anytime Singles (one for the return journey you were given) and £110 admin fee. They had no need to give you a return ticket and in these circs that offer seems very fair. If you don't pay you will probably be prosecuted.
 

WesternLancer

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Getting legal advice will probably cost more than the sum being asked for by GWR.
If considering that I’d recommend using one of the firms that get mentioned on here as specialising in rail fares evasion related work.
But not sure it would change the outcome.

It would be helpful to see copies of the letters received and any replies sent I guess. With all personal details and ref numbers removed.

It’s a bit cheeky to give the op a return ticket but then charge it out at the maximum Anytime fare when the op could have bought themselves an off peak single back to Stroud.
Maybe they were asked eg ‘can you afford to buy a ticket’ and answered ‘no’ and thus the inspector made the decision on that basis.
 

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