GWR Class 800

[superalbs]

I hope these new trains are better than the GWR HST's in terms of comfort because those seats give a nasty backache and are not suited for long journeys.

Don't get your hopes up, the seat chosen is suitable for "commuter and regional trains", so it's not exactly going to be very comfy. :/

http://freedmanseating.com/seats_and_accessories/rail_seating-1/sophia/

 

[ijmad]

Perhaps now is a good time to open a chain of shops in railway stations that specialise in inflatable seat cushions.

 

[yorksrob]

I hope these new trains are better than the GWR HST's in terms of comfort because those seats give a nasty backache and are not suited for long journeys.

I find them ok for Exeter - Penzance, but they're not my favourite IC seats by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[D6975]

If you mean the breaking up of some of the longer block sections in Cornwall, the contract has been awarded, with completion due by December 2018.

That was the original completion date. I think you will find that this date has slipped somewhat. The work is however due to start fairly soon.

 

[fgwrich]

Don't get your hopes up, the seat chosen is suitable for "commuter and regional trains", so it's not exactly going to be very comfy. :/

http://freedmanseating.com/seats_and_accessories/rail_seating-1/sophia/

Wonderful, I noticed on there is says 'Made in the USA with Fainsa Technology' :roll:

With all the HSTs being moved on or scrapped, there's going to be a lot of fairly new and decent Grammer seats going spare in a few years time. Should provide a few decent refurbishments in a few years time!

 

[Rich McLean]

How much quicker would the HSTs be with the same signalling improvements took place?

Well we won't know for certain until that's done (IF it ever starts). The GTIs will definitely be quicker and shorter signalling sections will mean less waiting time at Truro and Cambourne etc when following other trains during the peaks, and will happen when it's half hourly if something runs late.

Maybe there will be scope for small linespeed improvements in places where signalling current restricts it.

 

[RichmondCommu]

Well we won't know for certain until that's done (IF it ever starts). The GTIs will definitely be quicker and shorter signalling sections will mean less waiting time at Truro and Cambourne etc when following other trains during the peaks, and will happen when it's half hourly if something runs late.

Maybe there will be scope for small linespeed improvements in places where signalling current restricts it.

Where has "GTI" come from?

 

[Rich McLean]

Where has "GTI" come from?

HST short sets. GTI as they will accelerate like stink. Sorry I forgot which forum I am on, will remember to use 2+4 HSTs for clarity

 

[Bornin1980s]

Where has "GTI" come from?

It's a nickname for the shortened HSTs, for their improved performance. An automotive term, it stands for 'Gran Turismo Injection. I believe it was coined by Volkswagen in the '70s to distinguish the high performance Golf from the then normal carburetor model. Not really relevant to diesel trains, which have always been fuel injected.

 

[RichmondCommu]

It's a nickname for the shortened HSTs, for their improved performance. An automotive term, it stands for 'Gran Turismo Injection. I believe it was coined by Volkswagen in the '70s to distinguish the high performance Golf from the then normal carburetor model. Not really relevant to diesel trains, which have always been fuel injected.

Well that's what I thought. I owned a couple of Golf GTi's in my younger days when I couldn't afford anything better and they certainly didn't bear any resemblance to a short version of the HST.

 

[RichmondCommu]

HST short sets. GTI as they will accelerate like stink. Sorry I forgot which forum I am on, will remember to use 2+4 HSTs for clarity

Yes that's probably a good idea

 

[Clip]

Yes that's probably a good idea.

Its a term been used often on here in the Scotrail threads..

 

[Typhoon_93]

Aycliffe Factory 26/06/2017

Noted outside in the yard under Test were.
800014/15 both numbered.
800016/17/18/20 all un-numbered.
Class 801 this had its Diesel engine running today and the set powered up. I visit the factory daily and this is the first time I have seen this set getting any attention.

800019 and several other unidentifiable ones could be seen in the test shed.

Shell for 800034 [815034] arrived today from Tees Dock.

Hope this helps
Gareth

 

[IanXC]

Just a quick reminder that The GWR HSTGTi Thread exists for discussion of the GWR short sets.

 

[Goldfish62]

That was the original completion date. I think you will find that this date has slipped somewhat. The work is however due to start fairly soon.

No indication here of slippage http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/...ns-awarded-cornish-resignalling-contract.html

 

[D1009]

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K07154/2017/06/27/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91148/2017/06/28/advanced

Was this new territory covered by 800003 last night - Filton Abbey Wood to Patchway, Severn Tunnel Jn - Gloucester - Westerleigh Jn?

 

[D1009]

I believe more new territory covered last night, Dr Days Jn to North Somerset Jn, otherwise known as the Rhubarb curve, Bathampton Jn - Westbury - Fairwood Jn and the Frome loop.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K07144/2017/06/28/advanced

Tonight it looks as though Standish Jn to Kemble is being covered, but Swindon is blocked.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00337/2017/06/29/advanced

 

[Mag_seven]

Looks like the Class 800's have started using the West London Line for transit moves between Doncaster and North Pole depots:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K07179/2017/07/03/advanced

 

[jon0844]

Just saw two 800s coupled up by Hornsey around 1415.

 

[leomartin125]

Looks like the Class 800's have started using the West London Line for transit moves between Doncaster and North Pole depots:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K07179/2017/07/03/advanced

That was always the case! Impossible to deliver them from Merchant Park otherwise!

 

[Chris125]

That was always the case! Impossible to deliver them from Merchant Park otherwise!

Didn't previous deliveries use the GWML to access North Pole? This movement appears to have gone via the direct connection with the WLL used by Eurostars.

 

[Mag_seven]

Didn't previous deliveries use the GWML to access North Pole? This movement appears to have gone via the direct connection with the WLL used by Eurostars.

They did - this may have been the first WLL movement.

 

[Mag_seven]

That was always the case! Impossible to deliver them from Merchant Park otherwise!

All right then can you give the forum examples of a Class 800 using the WLL connection before today?

 

[Bornin1980s]

I thought these were supposed to be in service by now.

 

[Pete_uk]

Seen a nighttime video of two 800s passing Stroud from the Swindon direction. It would be interesting to know if they will use this formation in service.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I thought these were supposed to be in service by now.

October is the target.
They are still not approved for working under the GW OHLE.

 

[jon0844]

1403 WGC.. Back again. Freaky I was reading this very thread as it passed!

 

[Mag_seven]

Saw 800001 and 800002 at Peterborough today.

 

[swt_passenger]

That was always the case! Impossible to deliver them from Merchant Park otherwise!

They definitely didn't use North Pole junction while the track was out of use, which it had been for a fairly long time. You seem to be posting 'as fact' with no justification at all...

 

[reddragon]

They definitely didn't use North Pole junction while the track was out of use, which it had been for a fairly long time. You seem to be posting 'as fact' with no justification at all...

It is a fact, a simple fact as the only route to the GWR from the north is the WLL.

The only change is that the old Eurostar connection re-opened earlier this year from the WLL so trains do not have to get into the depot from the new GWR connection via the WLL.