Great Western Livery

[FenMan]

Something that may or may not be connected with the refurb:

Since the change to FGW to GWR the volume of the canned announcements on 165/166s varies hugely. A fair number are unintelligible.

It's a trivial task to normalise the volume of sound files, so I'm wondering why it hasn't been done?

 

[superalbs]

It appears that 150001 is now in green, as shows Gilberdyke Barry's photo.

 

[Sparks807Evo]

Looking good - will be interesting what's been done to the interior and if they've changed the headlights as has been done on the 166s - I hope so as the non high intensity headlamps they've got, along with the ex LM 150/1s look pretty dead now.

 

[Parallel]

I presume 232 Has also had the new PA system, door buttons & sounders as per the DDA modified 219?

Indeed it does, and 150238. However, the PA system was switched off in 150232 when I was on it.

I've been on a SWT 158 hire in which was attached to 150238 working a Weymouth - Bristol service about a month ago. The PA system was switched on and it was so strange hearing it on a SWT unit. I'm not sure if something went a little bit dodgy between the units but the PA announcements were very very loud in the SWT 158, and sounded as if there was interference.

 

[59CosG95]

And bringing the list up to date for 4/2/16:
LOCOS
Class 43 powercars:
002-FGW livery.
003 "ISAMBARD KINGDOM BRUNEL"-FGW livery.
004- "First for the future/First ar gyfer y dyfodol"-FGW livery.
005-FGW livery.
009-FGW livery.
010-FGW livery.
012-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital
015-FGW livery.
016-FGW livery.
017 "Hannahs discoverhannahs.org"-FGW livery.
018-FGW livery.
020 "MTU Power. Passion. Partnership."-FGW livery.
021 "David Austin-Cartoonist"-FGW livery.
022-FGW livery.
023 "SQN LDR Harold Starr One of the Few"-FGW livery.
024 "Great Western Society 1961-2011 Didcot Railway Centre"-FGW livery.
025 "The Institute of Railway Operators 2000-2010 TEN YEARS OF PROMOTING OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE"-FGW livery.
026 "Michael Eavis"-FGW livery.
027 "Glorious Devon"-FGW livery.
028-FGW livery.
029-FGW livery.
030 "Christian Lewis Trust"-FGW livery.
031-FGW livery.
032-FGW livery.
033 "Driver Brian Cooper 15th June 1947-5th October 1999"-FGW livery.
034 "TravelWatch South West"-FGW livery.
035-FGW livery.
036-FGW livery.
037 "Penydarren"-FGW livery.
040 "Bristol St. Philip's Marsh-FGW livery.
041 "Meningitis Trust Support For Life"-FGW livery.
042-FGW livery.
053 "University of Worcester"-FGW livery.
056 "The Royal British Legion"-FGW livery.
063-FGW livery.
069-FGW livery.
070 "The Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"-FGW livery.
071-FGW livery.
078-FGW livery.
079-FGW livery.
086-FGW livery.
087 "11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment Royal Logistics Corps"-FGW livery.
088-FGW livery.
091-FGW livery.
092-FGW livery.
093-FGW livery.
094-FGW livery.
097 "Environment Agency"-FGW livery.
098-FGW livery.
122-FGW livery.
124-FGW livery.
126-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital
127 "Sir Peter Parker 1924-2002 Cotswold Line 150"-FGW livery.
128-FGW livery.
129-FGW livery.
130-FGW livery.
131-FGW livery.
132 "We Save the Children-will you?"-FGW livery.
133-FGW livery.
134-FGW livery.
135-FGW livery.
136-FGW livery.
137 "Newton Abbott 150"-FGW livery.
138-FGW livery.
139 "Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004"-FGW livery.
140 "Depo Diesel Glandŵr 1963 Dathlu 50 Mlynedd 2013/Landore Diesel Depot 1963 Celebrating 50 Years 2013"-FGW livery.
141-FGW livery.
142 "Reading Panel Signal Box 1965-2010"-FGW livery.
143 "Stroud 700"-FGW livery.
144-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (countryside images)
145-FGW livery.
146-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (coastal images)
147 "Royal Marines Celebrating 350 Years"-FGW livery.
148-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital
149 "University of Plymouth"-FGW livery.
150-FGW livery.
151-FGW livery.
152-FGW livery.
153-FGW livery.
154-FGW livery.
155 "The Red Arrows 50 Seasons of Excellence"-FGW livery.
156 "Dartington International Summer School"-FGW livery.
158-FGW livery.
159-FGW livery.
160 "Sir Moir Lockhead OBE"-FGW livery.
161-FGW livery.
162-FGW livery.
163-Advertising livery: Visit Plymouth
164-FGW livery.
165 "Prince Michael of Kent"-FGW livery.
168-FGW livery.
169 "THE NATIONAL TRUST"-FGW livery.
170-FGW livery.
171-FGW livery.
172 "Harry Patch The Last survivor of the trenches"-Black & orange commemorative livery. FGW logo still present.
174-FGW livery.
175 "GWR-175th Anniversary"-FGW livery.
176-FGW livery.
177-FGW livery.
179 "Pride of Laira"-FGW livery.
180-FGW livery.
181-FGW livery.
182-FGW livery.
183-FGW livery.
185 "Great Western"-FGW livery.
186-FGW livery.
187-New GWR livery.
188-New GWR livery.
189 "RAILWAY HERITAGE TRUST"-FGW livery.
190-FGW livery.
191-FGW livery.
192-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital
193-FGW livery.
194-FGW livery.
195-FGW livery.
196-FGW livery.
197-FGW livery.
198 "Oxfordshire 2007"-FGW livery.

Class 57 sleeper/crank-ex locos:
57602 "Restormel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57603 "Tintagel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57604 "PENDENNIS CASTLE"-GWR (traditional) livery.
57605 "Totnes Castle"-GWR (new) livery.

COACHES
HST trailer sets:
LA01-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA02-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA03-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA04-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA05-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA06-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA07-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA08-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA09-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA10-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA11-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA12-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA13-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA14-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA15-New GWR livery.
LA16-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC30-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC31-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC32-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC33-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC34-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC35-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC36-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC37-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC38-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC40-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC41-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC42-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC43-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC44-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC45-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC46-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC47-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC48-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC49-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC50-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC51-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC52-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC53-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC54-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC55-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC56-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC57-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA60-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA61-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA62-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA63-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA64-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA71-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA72-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA73-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA74-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA75-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA spares: 40 (119, 231, 718, 811), 41 (004, 103, 116, 137, 176), 42 (049, 083, 095, 101, 102, 196, 294, 356, 381), 44 (002, 059, 083)
OO spare: 44024
PM spare: 44100

Sleeper coaches: (FGW dynamic lines unless stated as GWR silver & green)
10217, 10219 , 10225, 10232, 10532, 10534, 10563, 10584, 10589, 10590, 10594, 10596, 10601, 10612, 10616, 12100, 12142, 12161, 17173, 17174, 17175

DMUs
Class 143s, 153s and 150/1s are not included here, as they are expected to leave the franchise.
Class 150/0:
001-Repainted, but still OOS at Wabtec Doncaster for overhaul.
002-FGW livery.

Class 150/2:
202-FGW livery.
216-FGW livery.
219-FGW livery.
221-FGW Local Lines livery.
232-New GWR livery.
233-FGW Local Lines livery.
234-FGW Local Lines livery.
238-FGW livery.
239-FGW Local Lines livery.
243-FGW Local Lines livery.
244-FGW Local Lines livery.
246-FGW Local Lines livery.
247-FGW Local Lines livery.
248-FGW Local Lines livery.
249-FGW Local Lines livery.
261 "The Tarka Line - The First 25 Years 1989-2014"-FGW livery.
263-FGW Local Lines livery.
265-FGW Local Lines livery.
266-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 158
763-FGW Local Lines livery.
766-FGW Local Lines livery.
798-Advertising livery: Springboard Opportunity Group
950-FGW Local Lines livery.
951-FGW Local Lines livery.
952-FGW Local Lines livery.
953-FGW Local Lines livery.
954-FGW Local Lines livery.
955-FGW Local Lines livery.
956-FGW Local Lines livery.
957-FGW Local Lines livery.
958-FGW Local Lines livery.
959-FGW Local Lines livery.
960-FGW Local Lines livery.
961-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 165 (All currently in FGW Dynamic Lines livery.)

Class 166
201-FGW livery.
202-FGW livery.
203-FGW livery.
204 "Norman Topsom MBE"-New GWR livery.
205-New GWR livery.
206-New GWR livery.
207-FGW livery.
208-New GWR livery.
209-FGW livery.
210-New GWR livery.
211-FGW livery.
212-New GWR livery.
213-New GWR livery.
214-At Wolverton for repaint.
215-FGW livery.
216-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
217-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
218-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
219-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
220-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
221 "Reading Train Care Depot"-FGW livery.

Don't hesitate to add in any further changes; I'm sure there's a few I've missed!

 

[xavsinden4]

Does anyone know what's happening to the 150/9 units in the new franchise?

 

[Mintona]

End coaches reformed as 150125 and 150126 - to be sent to Northern.

150209? I think are the centre coaches - to be refurbished to standard 150/2 gwr spec and remain with the company.

 

[59CosG95]

End coaches reformed as 150125 and 150126 - to be sent to Northern.

150209? I think are the centre coaches - to be refurbished to standard 150/2 gwr spec and remain with the company.

57209 and 57212 (from 150209 and 212 respectively) are the centre coaches.

 

[FGW_DID]

166213 is in GWR Green.
166214 is away at Wolverton so will be in Green shortly.

 

[Parallel]

Anyone know which 150/2 is up next?

 

[fgwrich]

Do we know what work 001 is receiving at Doncaster? New interior / Seats and Lavatory or just a repaint and mechanical overhaul?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

150209? I think are the centre coaches - to be refurbished to standard 150/2 gwr spec and remain with the company.

Does this mean one of them is going to get a toilet and make it a standard 150/2 or will it become an odd man out in the fleet?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

57209 and 57212 (from 150209 and 212 respectively) are the centre coaches.

Does this mean one of them is going to get a toilet and make it a standard 150/2 or will it become an odd man out in the fleet?

The plan is that one will be fitted with an accessible toilet module and the two will become effectively a standard unit. What number it will carry is anyone's guess, as renumbering the toilet fitted vehicle as a 52xxx will presumably happen, but if it keeps the last 3 digits will be duplicating a number of a scrapped vehicle. Possibly the whole unit will become 150286, with vehicles becoming 52286/57286 respectively.

 

[FGW_DID]

Do we know what work 001 is receiving at Doncaster? New interior / Seats and Lavatory or just a repaint and mechanical overhaul?

C6 overhaul (whatever happens on that!) and I believe a new Universally Accessible Toilet. Don't know if the interior will receive a revamp.

 

[BestWestern]

I think for the moment interior refurb work is unlikely, as the new grey fabric used in the 'Green Goddess' HST (and Turbos I presume?) is not wearing at all well.

I think a heavy green moquette may appear on any future interior refurbs.

 

[Sparks807Evo]

I hope the interior receives some sort of revamp - however doubtful with the current seat cover issues. I have maintained the belief for ages though that the 150s need a SWT 455 interior job doing. Northern will have to certainly with the 150/1s considering the state some of them are in. Very basic interiors that look antiquated now and will be even more shown up once the CAFs start.

New panelling, new seats and layout, akin to the 455 refurbishment really would be great. However probably will never happen :roll:

 

[JonathanH]

The plan is that one will be fitted with an accessible toilet module and the two will become effectively a standard unit. What number it will carry is anyone's guess, as renumbering the toilet fitted vehicle as a 52xxx will presumably happen, but if it keeps the last 3 digits will be duplicating a number of a scrapped vehicle. Possibly the whole unit will become 150286, with vehicles becoming 52286/57286 respectively.

Latterly, new vehicle numbers don't tend to happen - 168329 has previously been 170399 and 170309 but the carriages are still 50399 and 70399. 171730 has 50392 and 79392 from when it was 170392.

57209 and 57212 also operated for one day last year as as 150209 when they were moved from 150921/150927 to overhaul and then to 150925/150927.

Of course all of 57351 to 57385 were previously 57301 to 57335 but that was in an earlier time. More recently mark 3 and mark 4 carriages have been renumbered also but that is a bit different too.

We will have to wait and see.

 

[PHILIPE]

Latterly, new vehicle numbers don't tend to happen - 168329 has previously been 170399 and 170309 but the carriages are still 50399 and 70399. 171730 has 50392 and 79392 from when it was 170392.

57209 and 57212 also operated for one day last year as as 150209 when they were moved from 150921/150927 to overhaul and then to 150925/150927.

Of course all of 57351 to 57385 were previously 57301 to 57335 but that was in an earlier time. More recently mark 3 and mark 4 carriages have been renumbered also but that is a bit different too.

We will have to wait and see.

150209 hasn't been reformed again for today, has it ? 17 30 Weymouth to Bristol TM reported on Journey Check as having no toilets !!!

 

[455driver]

150209 hasn't been reformed again for today, has it ? 17 30 Weymouth to Bristol TM reported on Journey Check as having no toilets !!!

No its 150232 Weymouth to Westbury where 158766 is attached.

 

[CC 72100]

Toilet door failing again? That was the issue the other morning...

 

[fgwrich]

No its 150232 Weymouth to Westbury where 158766 is attached.

Quelle Surprise!

Those modules really are cheap and awful things. Perhaps it's stopped the annoying voice talking to you when your using it though!

 

[455driver]

With all this PRM stuff going on does anyone think the PA should inform the passengers if the toilet is in use or available, if they fitted an air sampler in the toilet the PA could also advise people if they needed to leave it five minutes before using the toilet!
I mean if they need all the other stuff then surely they need this vital information?

 

[cjmillsnun]

With all this PRM stuff going on does anyone think the PA should inform the passengers if the toilet is in use or available, if they fitted an air sampler in the toilet the PA could also advise people if they needed to leave it five minutes before using the toilet!
I mean if they need all the other stuff then surely they need this vital information?

Post of the thread

 

[Parallel]

I did also see these on Journey Check last week:

Two long journeys without toilets. With the former, god help anyone needing to use the loo between Castle Cary and Weymouth!

 

[43096]

With all this PRM stuff going on does anyone think the PA should inform the passengers if the toilet is in use or available, if they fitted an air sampler in the toilet the PA could also advise people if they needed to leave it five minutes before using the toilet!

I mean if they need all the other stuff then surely they need this vital information?

Just send a canary in....

 

[Townsend Hook]

171730 has 50392 and 79392 from when it was 170392.

But presumably the carriage numbers on that particular unit were changed when the unit became 170392, having been originally outshopped as 170728.

 

[superalbs]

Interesting formation happened today.
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...334/EEEBC3F270F38B8A44F7075466D1067EA1D06FA9/

 

[CC 72100]

Blue power car met green LA15 set for the first time yesterday.

 

[superalbs]

Apparently a FGW HST set was sighted at Milton Keynes, bound for Wolverton Works. Does anyone know anything about this?

 

[Deepgreen]

166216 formed my North Downs line train this morning. Not yet repainted, but has been running around for many months with the first class at one end 'partially-declassified'! By this I mean that the yellow stripe has been removed on one side of the coach, but not on the other, the same goes for the large '1', there are no window stickers at all, but there are anti-macassars at every seat! Never mind the passengers, I don't how the staff are meant to know what is what! The fact that first has been abolished on the route's stopping trains since last October has not been publicised anywhere except in the timetables, such that my guard the other day didn't even know this! Pretty shambolic.