Great Northern Fleet - 379s introduction

[rmHawk765]

If I remember correctly the 379 I was travelling on on Sunday was 009, and one of its sealed windows was broken meaning the passengers below constantly had to keep closing it.

 

[60159]

Updated to reflect that 011 has entered service. Not aware of any other changes.

UNIT STATUES	First day of service with GTR
001	in service with GTR based at HE	25 May 25
002	in service with GTR based at HE	10 Feb 25
003	in service with GTR based at HE	19 Sep 25
004	in service with GTR based at HE	08 Oct 25
005	in service with GTR based at HE	16 Sep 25
006	in service with GTR based at HE	08 May 25
007	in service with GTR based at HE	17 Oct 25
008	in service with GTR based at HE	10 Oct 25
009	in service with GTR based at HE	13 Mar 26
010	in service with GTR based at HE	12 May 25
011	in service with GTR based at HE	18 May 26
012	At Ferme Park, but not in passenger service
013	At Ferme Park, but not in passenger service
014	At Hornsey but not in passenger service
015	At Ferme Park, but not in passenger service
016	in service with GTR based at HE	05 Mar 25
017	in service with GTR based at HE	12 May 25
018	in service with GTR based at HE	25 Oct 25
019	in service with GTR based at HE	02 Dec 25
020	in service with GTR based at HE	25 Mar 25
021	in service with GTR based at HE	17 Nov 25
022	in service with GTR based at HE	10 Feb 25
023	in service with GTR based at HE	25 Mar 25
024	in service with GTR based at HE	20 May 25
025	in service with GTR based at HE	25 May 25
026	in service with GTR based at HE	02 Feb 25
027	in service with GTR based at HE	13 May 25
028	in service with GTR based at HE	19 May 25
029	in service with GTR based at HE	29 Mar 25
030	At Hornsey but not in passenger service

Are 12,13, and 15 still at Ferme Park.
Are they all in one line?
Can see from main line. Is there anywhere else you can see the actual numbers?

 

[03_179]

013 is London End
015 is Country end
012 in between

I saw them from a local train the other week on my way to Hornsey

I will ask a mate if they are defo still in that order there when I get a chance

 

[60159]

013 is London End
015 is Country end
012 in between

I saw them from a local train the other week on my way to Hornsey

I will ask a mate if they are defo still in that order there when I get a chance

Absolutely brilliant thanks. I find 379 numbers difficult.

 

[buz33]

Is 001 still out and about? Looking at realtraintimes, it is the only one apart from 012-015 and 030 which I haven't 'seen' recently.

 

[03_179]

Absolutely brilliant thanks. I find 379 numbers difficult.

As I said. My contact confirmed the order in Ferme Park

 

[Teds]

I travelled on the 1718 Kings Cross to Kings Lynn on 9 July - a very hot day. The driver announced that the aircon was not working properly in some coaches and arranged for water to be supplied to the passengers in those coaches before departure. He said that this was an on-going problem with some of these units. I was on 379 003 and although there was some airflow, it was not sufficient to keep the temperature down that day although it would probably have been OK on less hot days.
When the train arrived at Royston, there was a delay while the driver checked the platform before departure. The images on some of the platform monitors in the cab were bleached out by the sun so he couldn't rely them. Royston station is on curve with a overbridge in the middle of the platform so there is no line of sight along the full length of the 12 coach train.
It seems the 379 units still have quite a lot of faults although they are in traffic.
My impression is that 387 units will be used if possible.
The rest of the evening peak to Cambridge must have been awful. The next two King's Lynn trains were cancelled and the Thameslink Brighton - Cambridge services did not run all day because of pantograph problems

 

[windjabbers]

I think that the situation remains unchanged with 001 - 010 and 016 - 029 in service. While 012/013/015 are parked up at Ferme Park and 014 and 030 are still at Hornsey - these 5 are yet to see service with GTR.

Would welcome any intel on any changes or plans for these 5 to be used.

I have also noticed that some units have clearly had some work on there bogies. The external condition of some of them is now very poor.

BW DC

 

[03_179]

015 is in Hornsey Depot

 

[St. Paddy]

013 has moved over to Hornsey Depot and 030 has swapped places with it to Ferme Park. 030 looks to have recently had a C4 exam with refurbished bogies and pantograph.

 

[Southern Dvr]

030 looks to have recently had a C4 exam with refurbished bogies and pantograph.

it was at Selhurst long enough earlier this year that they could easily have done that then.

 

[whoosh]

An update to post #32:

From last month, Class 717s are now cleared for 100mph running, from their original 85mph. Not sure if all cabs have had their 'maximum speed' signage changed yet, but there is a process taking place to change it.

I don't know what the plan is or was with this, but in theory they could work Kings Cross to Letchworth peak services, or make fast ECS runs to/from Welwyn to form another peak service.
It's also possible that whatever was planned may be rendered superfluous by any pending transfer of services to TfL (of which there has been no further news as of yet).

 

[Transilien]

From last month, Class 717s are now cleared for 100mph running, from their original 85mph. Not sure if all cabs have had their 'maximum speed' signage changed yet, but there is a process taking place to change it.

85mph was such a bizarre top speed. Perhaps the 717s will now be used on Cambridge stoppers too?

 

[saismee]

85mph was such a bizarre top speed. Perhaps the 717s will now be used on Cambridge stoppers too?

Knowing our luck with GN, they'll end up in Lynn and then be taken out of service for endless pantograph repairs.

 

[Royston Vasey]

85mph was such a bizarre top speed. Perhaps the 717s will now be used on Cambridge stoppers too?

The acceleration to 100 would be catastrophic for already catastrophic timekeeping. They're not just a 700 with a door, a 717 has 1,200 kW per unit compared to 3,300 kW on a 700/0.

They're also too short at 6 car and couldn't be doubled up as they'd be too long for the level crossings. No toilets would also be unacceptable, plenty of passengers are on those services for an hour or more.

They're also not needed, unless some bright spark at the DfT decides to hand Southern even more 387s.

 

[RailwayRookie]

Knowing our luck with GN, they'll end up in Lynn and then be taken out of service for endless pantograph repairs.

Don't worry they will then close the Lynn assuming that's the problem then smash up another three between Ely and Waterbeach...

 

[windjabbers]

Turning back to the 379.have any of the 5 around Hornsey and Ferme Park - 12/013/014/015/030 been used in service? Given the number of short formation its a shame that they have not brought these into service !

BW DC