Great British Railways: What concessions/franchises will be created?

[py_megapixel]

It could still keep a unified brand but still have sub-brands.TPE for example is a well-known brand.

It does have something of a tainted reputation though thanks to its chronic and widely reported overcrowding. Of course the reduction in commuting and the fact that many of the long distance TPE services are 5 or 6 carriages have alleviated that issue.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

It does have something of a tainted reputation though thanks to its chronic and widely reported overcrowding. Of course the reduction in commuting and the fact that many of the long distance TPE services are 5 or 6 carriages have alleviated that issue.

But that doesn’t mean it should go. Its a well known brand same with ScotRail and Southern

 

[Mikey C]

16 Regional Concessions

Plus Chiltern and London Tilbury Southend?

 

[haggishunter]

The Caledonian Sleeper Franchise runs till 2030 - how does that fit with a concession model and is it likely to be the last franchise standing in GBR land?

 

[Energy]

The Caledonian Sleeper Franchise runs till 2030 - how does that fit with a concession model and is it likely to be the last franchise standing in GBR land?

I think we may see the CS go, its the most heavily subsidised franchise in the UK with not much reason to keep it IMO especially post HS2. The rolling stock would be better used at Night Riviera which though it requires subsidy I think it requires a lot less.

 

[Clansman]

The Caledonian Sleeper Franchise runs till 2030 - how does that fit with a concession model and is it likely to be the last franchise standing in GBR land?

I think we may see the CS go, its the most heavily subsidised franchise in the UK with not much reason to keep it IMO especially post HS2. The rolling stock would be better used at Night Riviera which though it requires subsidy I think it requires a lot less.

ScotRail and Caledonian Sleeper are devolved to the Scottish Government, so that will be for them to decide. Not GBR or the DfT, unless the UK government decide to claw back those powers (which will never happen in the current climate).

And they definitely will not be thinking about what's best for the Cornish Sleeper.

As for the HS2 argument, shaving 40 minutes off the journey to Glasgow and Edinburgh might kill off the Lowlander if berths can't be filled thereafter, but it will definitely not kill off the Highlander which doesn't serve Glasgow or Edinburgh at all from the south (unless you want to clutch at the straws for Dalmuir!).

GBR is very much a fancy marketing ploy for something that is predominantly a model to overhaul English operators, with the exception of infrastructure and ticketing which will apply UK wide should the current plans make it to reality.

 

[Energy]

ScotRail and Caledonian Sleeper are devolved to the Scottish Government, so that will be for them to decide

Good point, but as some Scotrail services are being dropped i can see the Caledonian sleeper being dropped or reduced to highlander only.

And they definitely will not be thinking about what's best for the Cornish Sleeper.

Agreed, might affect what deal they can get with whoever owns the mk5 stock, if they know that Night Riviera would be interested in the stock they might keep the leasing costs higher.

As for the HS2 argument, shaving 40 minutes off the journey to Glasgow and Edinburgh might kill off the Lowlander if berths can't be filled thereafter, but it will definitely not kill off the Highlander which doesn't serve Glasgow or Edinburgh at all from the south (unless you want to clutch at the straws for Dalmuir!).

Agreed, the highlander does serve a purpose in serving more remote communities, I can see them getting served more frequently by Scotrail instead though.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Plus Chiltern and London Tilbury Southend?

Because Chiltern is covered by the Central Route of the North West & Central Region and the LTS by the Anglia Route of the Eastern Region I put them into the central and Anglia concessions.

 

[Chiltern006]

Could Transport for Cornwall take on the operation of Plymouth-Penzance services and all the Cornish branch lines?

 

[JonathanH]

Could Transport for Cornwall take on the operation of Plymouth-Penzance services and all the Cornish branch lines?

Why? Are you suggesting there is no value in running through services to Cornwall?

A fleet of 20 150/2s purely allocated to Cornwall running all the services would be an interesting proposition - change at Plymouth for London.

The reality is that the through services are a core part of the service in Cornwall and it is better to have one operator running both long distance and local services.

 

[Chiltern006]

no no no! just all the branches between Plymouth and Penzance, and the train that starts at Plymouth and terminating at Penzance

basically