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Great Britain interurban bus map

Parebunks

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Thank you @yorkie ! I've updated the map for 2025, and extended it north to include Scotland. PDF attached, feedback and corrections as ever welcome - my Scotland knowledge is rather patchy and I'll almost certainly have missed some other changes in the last year. Flixbus and National Express insets probably coming at some point to fill in the big gap on the left, but still working out what a treatment of those will look like given the impracticality of showing every route as an individual line.
 

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An excellent piece of work!

I've just had a look at the Sheffield areas and have some suggestions (feel free to reject if impractical)

- add town of Dronfield between Sheffield and Chesterfield. 43 and 44 serve Dronfield but X17 runs fast via the bypass.

- add Dinnington between Sheffield and Worksop along with bus X5 between the two, this provides a useful connecting route onto the 19 to Worksop.

- there's also bus 257 and 257c from Sheffield into the Peak District. Bus 257 runs Sheffield to Bakewell via the scenic route Monday to Saturday whilst 257C runs Sundays only via Castleton to Glossop.
 

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Thank you @yorkie ! I've updated the map for 2025, and extended it north to include Scotland. PDF attached, feedback and corrections as ever welcome - my Scotland knowledge is rather patchy and I'll almost certainly have missed some other changes in the last year. Flixbus and National Express insets probably coming at some point to fill in the big gap on the left, but still working out what a treatment of those will look like given the impracticality of showing every route as an individual line.
Looking good

I'll just mention that as well as 4 X1s an hour between Halifax and Huddersfield there's 4 501s.
 

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Midland Bluebird (McGills) run a frequent service 59 from Stirling to Doune and Callander ( the same route as the 978 Citylink from Oban). On a Saturday the S60 runs the whole way to Crianlarich (note correct spelling ) and Tyndrum. A few other of their routes are also missing from your map.
There's a supported service between Killin and Callander but I don't know who operates it.
There are services from Crieff to Comrie, St Fillans and I think Lochearnhead but I don't know the operator.
 

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A few minor corrections in the Greater Manchester area

The 7, 8 & 362 coming out of Wigan are now the 607, 608 & 632

The CAT5 is going to be renumbered just 5 in January

The line between Manchester and Oldham is missing a label, presumably 83 & 84

In West Yorkshire, Halifax to Hebden Bridge is now 591, 592 & 593, the latter being the most frequent

I’d agree with Deerfold above that Halifax to Huddersfield should probably be X1 & 501 as they both run every 15 mins and are reasonably direct

Goole to Scunthorpe 361 is now a Stagecoach service, not East Yorkshire
 
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The 154 between Loughborough and Leicester is missing.
Missed out due to space around Loughborough being at something of a premium and the lower frequency and more circuitous route than the other options - may add if I do a wider reworking of the area.
An excellent piece of work!

I've just had a look at the Sheffield areas and have some suggestions (feel free to reject if impractical)

- add town of Dronfield between Sheffield and Chesterfield. 43 and 44 serve Dronfield but X17 runs fast via the bypass.

- add Dinnington between Sheffield and Worksop along with bus X5 between the two, this provides a useful connecting route onto the 19 to Worksop.

- there's also bus 257 and 257c from Sheffield into the Peak District. Bus 257 runs Sheffield to Bakewell via the scenic route Monday to Saturday whilst 257C runs Sundays only via Castleton to Glossop.
Some good shouts, thanks - couldn't fit Dronfield but have added the other two.
Looking good

I'll just mention that as well as 4 X1s an hour between Halifax and Huddersfield there's 4 501s.
Done, thanks.
Midland Bluebird (McGills) run a frequent service 59 from Stirling to Doune and Callander ( the same route as the 978 Citylink from Oban). On a Saturday the S60 runs the whole way to Crianlarich (note correct spelling ) and Tyndrum. A few other of their routes are also missing from your map.
There's a supported service between Killin and Callander but I don't know who operates it.
There are services from Crieff to Comrie, St Fillans and I think Lochearnhead but I don't know the operator.
Thanks for the more substantial Scotland knowledge! Skipped S60 given it's only one day a week, but found and added all the other specific routes you mentioned.

Version with all those tweaks attached - now also with @Andyh82 's corrections which they posted as I typed out the previous message!
 

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That is an astonishing achievement. Does anyone know how to find out whether a given route allows use of an old folks/disabled Bus Pass? The rules seem to change from time to time: for example I know that the 757 bus between Luton Airport and London Victoria used to accept them but no longer does, but I don't know whether that's due to a change in the stopping pattern or simply a change of mind by the company or some official.
 

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That is an astonishing achievement. Does anyone know how to find out whether a given route allows use of an old folks/disabled Bus Pass? The rules seem to change from time to time: for example I know that the 757 bus between Luton Airport and London Victoria used to accept them but no longer does, but I don't know whether that's due to a change in the stopping pattern or simply a change of mind by the company or some official.
Assuming you're in England - everything on the main map without a specific note allows them, anything off the main map doesn't. In England it's based on whether the route is registered as a local bus service, which is largely about the distance between the stops.
 

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In adding the C60 out of Callander you've sent it to Killearn rather than Killin which to the North rather than the SW!

And there are 4 Stagecoach routes 321-4 which cover the Island of Arran. And West Coast motors routes on Mull

And there are a few buses which go up the West Side of Kintyre from Campbeltown as far as Carradale.
 

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One I've found - The Triangle in Kent (Canterbury-Whitstable-Herne Bay) is now multiple routes (See attached), very confusing and most still call it the Triangle so it isn't a huge error.
 

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In adding the C60 out of Callander you've sent it to Killearn rather than Killin which to the North rather than the SW!

And there are 4 Stagecoach routes 321-4 which cover the Island of Arran. And West Coast motors routes on Mull

And there are a few buses which go up the West Side of Kintyre from Campbeltown as far as Carradale.
Thanks again! Done the mainland corrections - missing out islands was originally intentional but in retrospect a bit silly, have added Mull for now and will probably do Bute + Arran + the Isle of Wight at the other end at some point over next few days.
One I've found - The Triangle in Kent (Canterbury-Whitstable-Herne Bay) is now multiple routes (See attached), very confusing and most still call it the Triangle so it isn't a huge error.
That is very confusing - fixed up but really think it might be Stagecoach who need to do the fixing here!
 

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In the Scottish Borders, the 91 is Peebles to Biggar only.
The 128 is direct from Hawick to Newcastleton not via Langholm.
X74 is direct Newcastle to Jedburgh.
60 route between Duns and Berwick is also via Eyemouth on alternate journeys.
Add 235 Berwick to St Abbs via Eyemouth. Eyemouth also served by 253.
X16 runs beyond Wooler to Kelso on Saturdays.
Berwick to Wooler is three separate routes.
There is also a six day a week route between Wooler and Alnwick operated by Glen Valley 473.
Borders Buses 0418 Wooler to Alnwick via Seahouses as per route of X18 from Belford which is the split between the X15 and X18.
 

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Whilst it’s very difficult to be accurate in such a confined area, here are a few comments on the area around Glasgow.
The First 6 & 18 do both go from Glasgow to East Kilbride, but via completely different routes.
The McGill’s 38 provides the most frequent direct link between Glasgow and Paisley (every 8 mins), so should at least accompany the First 9 (an AI 15 min frequency). The 38 also continues beyond Paisley to Johnstone (same as 904).
The 757 from Paisley to Clydebank via Glasgow Airport is a key route, but space is tight!
 

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In the Scottish Borders, the 91 is Peebles to Biggar only.
The 128 is direct from Hawick to Newcastleton not via Langholm.
X74 is direct Newcastle to Jedburgh.
60 route between Duns and Berwick is also via Eyemouth on alternate journeys.
Add 235 Berwick to St Abbs via Eyemouth. Eyemouth also served by 253.
X16 runs beyond Wooler to Kelso on Saturdays.
Berwick to Wooler is three separate routes.
There is also a six day a week route between Wooler and Alnwick operated by Glen Valley 473.
Borders Buses 0418 Wooler to Alnwick via Seahouses as per route of X18 from Belford which is the split between the X15 and X18.
Thanks, fixed/added several of those - although some like the X74 and Berwick-Wooler are stylistic choices to make the map easier to read. bustimes.org has two different 91s either side of Biggar?
Whilst it’s very difficult to be accurate in such a confined area, here are a few comments on the area around Glasgow.
The First 6 & 18 do both go from Glasgow to East Kilbride, but via completely different routes.
The McGill’s 38 provides the most frequent direct link between Glasgow and Paisley (every 8 mins), so should at least accompany the First 9 (an AI 15 min frequency). The 38 also continues beyond Paisley to Johnstone (same as 904).
The 757 from Paisley to Clydebank via Glasgow Airport is a key route, but space is tight!
Thanks - Glasgow was certainly one of the tighter areas. 6/18 shown as one line in the same way as similar situations elsewhere on the map, just not enough room to show them separately. Could try to add Johnstone, is it distinct enough from Paisley to need separating out? May redo Glasgow entirely eventually to get closer to a Manchester level of detail inc. stuff like the 757, it is a bit squashed at the moment.
 

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Love a good bus map! The paper maps that some counties used to compile (I don't know if any still are produced?) were my go to for many a trip out. Another online resource I use, that is regularly updated, is www.busatlas.uk
 

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Sorry, my mistake. Biggar to Lanark commercial journeys are 91. 191 is the number for Spt supported journeys. The 91 Peebles to Biggar is Borders Buses and 91/191 Biggar to Lanark is Stuart’s Coaches.
 

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I note that not all the London Superloop routes are included - is this because some are fully within London rather than just outside?
 

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Love a good bus map! The paper maps that some counties used to compile (I don't know if any still are produced?) were my go to for many a trip out. Another online resource I use, that is regularly updated, is www.busatlas.uk
Barry Doe has a list of printed material here - there are still plenty around and some councils are now using BSIP funds to bring back previously scrapped maps - Oxfordshire's for instance hopefully coming in the next month or so.
I note that not all the London Superloop routes are included - is this because some are fully within London rather than just outside?
It's largely how far into London they are/how many other TfL routes would have to go on to get them in - aim to eventually include the whole loop as the boundary but this will need wider reworking.
 

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Assuming you're in England - everything on the main map without a specific note allows them, anything off the main map doesn't. In England it's based on whether the route is registered as a local bus service, which is largely about the distance between the stops.
Unfortunately, nothing is that simple.
The Red Arrow on your map between Nottingham and Derby doesn't.
Not on your map, but there's a few Sunday routes in North Yorkshire don't as the council has deemed them to be primarily for tourists.
 

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Unfortunately, nothing is that simple.
The Red Arrow on your map between Nottingham and Derby doesn't.
Not on your map, but there's a few Sunday routes in North Yorkshire don't as the council has deemed them to be primarily for tourists.
Oops, might add a note for the Red Arrow, thanks for pointing that out.
 

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Loving the Scottish additions! A couple of very minor points, to the south of Ayr are the towns of Ballantrae and Stranraer.

And, I guess more down to space limitations, the 901/906 from Glasgow follows the M8 to the west (roughly parallel to the 9/38), while the 1 series uses the Clydeside Expressway to the north west, and the Citylink services use Great Western Road, which is parallel but a few miles further north (except the occasional journeys that use the M8, but let's gloss over that!)

If you are adding islands, can I suggest Cumbrae, off the coast of Largs. Millport Motors run service 320 to the ferry slip every 15 minutes during the summer season, and 30 mins during the winter. Amazing job, and forward to see what happens next!
 
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Just a heads up. Barmouth to Porthmadog is now the G23.
Barmouth to Dolgellau should be a thicker hourly line.
In South West Wales, the 322 and 381 are now operated by First Cymru.
Chester to Whitchurch 41 should now show as operated by Centrebus Group.
 

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11 Clitheroe -Settle goes on from settle to Horton in Ribblesdale. 11 runs Mon - Sat. Some journeys have a break in Settle. They park up in WhiteFriars car park where there is an Asda petrol station/small shop and public loos. Operator NYCC.
 

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This map is becoming increasingly useful (especially as busatlas still hasn’t made it to Scotland. A small correction though - Stranraer has a typo (Stranrear).
 

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In Cornwall I would include Fowey (space to do so I think) - relatively frequent services by First and Go Ahead from St. Austell.
 

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