Hello guys this is my first post here. I've got offer from GTR railway for station assistant on Thameslink route. Last week they send me email that I'm successful and now i'm waiting confirmation for medicals. Can anyone said me how long will wait for the medicals and if all goes well when can i expect start date. Also does anyone know about allowances they're paying like London allowance and shift allowance? Thank you hope to get right information here!
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As far as I know, there are no enhancements for new staff.
Aside from the fact that it'll be more like £1200 a month after tax (assuming no student loans etc) I think a lot of people would be happy to accept a role based on that salary.
I suppose it depends on your circumstances, but in this economy, a full time position in a big company in an even bigger field, think of it as the bottom of a massive and easily climbable ladder.
I suppose it depends on your circumstances, but in this economy, a full time position in a big company in an even bigger field, think of it as the bottom of a massive and easily climbable ladder.
Yes sure, maybe i don't understand but when i complete 3 or 6 months of my employment will i get allowences like the other part of the team? It's normal like everywhere to not get anything in first months of my employement. Also if somebody know is there any probation when you sign or something?
https://www.gov.uk/browse/benefits
https://www.gov.uk/jobsearch
Feel free to browse there for something better. Sorry the railway wasn't able to help in your case and I wish you well in any future employment.
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Less. Have you allowed for the generous pension ?
Jonfun
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I'm not sure that's fair, with respect. 16800 is unreasonably low for a safety critical, shift working role, especially in the South where the cost of living is higher- some companies pay their cleaners more than that.
But it is a career with progression to where ever you want to go to. Driver/Guard/Manager the list is endless, if you want it.
Yes i understand also i'm asking about the allowences because i spoke with some of the dispatchers in central london and they told me that they have London. Allowence and shift allowence and with this and overtime the sallery goes to around 20-22000 but will not be fear if the new staff don't get this
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That's a really low salary to be honest.
The train dispatchers at Eurostar are on £31,000 basic plus with early turn payments averaging £150 per month they take home approx £33,000 pa. That's without one day's overtime thrown in.
Seems streets apart.
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You'll get enhanced pay for nights (depending where you are), early turns & there will be overtime available. A friend of mine is with GTR doing the same job and he takes no e around £1600-1700 a month after tax & NI.
The train dispatchers at Eurostar are on £31,000 basic plus with early turn payments averaging £150 per month they take home approx £33,000 pa. That's without one day's overtime thrown in.
Seems streets apart.
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You'll get enhanced pay for nights (depending where you are), early turns & there will be overtime available. A friend of mine is with GTR doing the same job and he takes no e around £1600-1700 a month after tax & NI.
Wherever it is, it does still seem like rather poor money - even if there is a possible career path as long as you can afford to stay in the job.
I was being paid £14,900 as a meagre budget control bod for a local authority back in 1993. Despite the odd pay freeze, I can imagine that this particular grade (they're all standardised) has risen quite significantly since then. I didn't really do anything that put lives at risk either, besides making the odd nasty cup of tea.
I was being paid £14,900 as a meagre budget control bod for a local authority back in 1993. Despite the odd pay freeze, I can imagine that this particular grade (they're all standardised) has risen quite significantly since then. I didn't really do anything that put lives at risk either, besides making the odd nasty cup of tea.
Seems strange though how he went from a station assistant to train despatcher in 2 posts though. 2 different roles.
either way if the OP doesn't want it im sure there will be someone who does.
also, how much do others think this role should get paid then out of interests?
either way if the OP doesn't want it im sure there will be someone who does.
also, how much do others think this role should get paid then out of interests?
Then feel free to apply for a London based role. Not all staff at all locations are on the same wage/salary. There are other factors involved in how much you can bump your wages not just location (London Allowance)
Not sure you have a valid point here. New starters can often be on different contracts and have different entitlements. There is also other reasons why new entrants do not immediately get full benefits etc. You yourself have highlighted this already. If you have questions then you should write them down and ask at your interview.
Fairness really isn't valid here. That is the advertised salary and whatever caveats come with the job then you either have to accept what is offered or decline as you have already stated. As clip states. There are plenty who would jump at the chance. In fact; someone at my local shopping establishment is trying to get in the door too.
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I'm pretty sure that if you wish to apply for a job knowing the wages in advance and then decide to refuse their offer then your well within your rights. The wage is what it is. If you do not like it then please fee free to apply elsewhere or claim the £26k in benefits that the government has set as the maximum you can claim. Nothing unfair in that.
I understand that the wage may seem low but it is a basic wage and does eventually come with other benefits. It also comes with overtime, a very good pension, travel ticket and 75% discount with ATOC.
It may appear low paid but consider what comes on top. Many jobs that are low paid come with added extras. The higher paid job typically comes with very little else as they already provide a generous salary.
London Allowance is a weird one because commuters will spend that portion of their salary on getting to work. As TOC's provide a train ticket then your quids in. Yes LA may reflect the higher cost associated with "living and working in London" but how many actually do that nowdays. I get LA but live outside and commute. I could easily transfer somewhere local but then I'd lose my allowance but I'd walk to work which saves petrol etc.
We have differing rates of pay on our TOC but we all Drive trains and do the same job. If I wanted extra I'd transfer to a Depot that paid a higher rate. Complaining about fairness is kinda pointless. It's my choice to earn less than my colleagues and kudos to those on the higher rate.
Have you tried asking Govia these questions?
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LM's Cleaners at Euston are on similar money to that. Despatchers are on slightly more than 20k, AIUI. Some people are just never satisfied, a bit like the OP!!!!
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Well, wasn't that just a big fat waste of their time?? Almost every job I have ever applied for has had the salary stated somewhere on the advert. You would have known it was the wage it was a long time ago, and now you're going to decline it because it isn't enough money?? Fool.:roll:
RJ
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Some station assistants were taken on as part of the new franchise commitment to staff all stations with more than 1m annual passenger trips, during service hours. They are trained to dispatch trains although this is not practised at all stations - their primary role is to look after the station and help with passenger assists.
To be fair it does look to be at the bottom end of the market payscale for this type of role, but it is the advertised rate.
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I've seen loads of jobs in my profession which don't state a salary. Many are with companies that don't have recognised and standardised scales, so use a range of tricks to pay all staff different rates based on things like 'experience' which can of course be massively abused.
I'd say more jobs have no pay advertised than do. It means that unlike many professions, in the world of journalism and publishing, salaries have been falling year on year in both real and actual terms. And the requirements have increased immensely.
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This is training money which will go up to 21500 after qualifying (getting dispatcher licence) in 5 weeks at most
Ah, that changes everything!
plastictaffy
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Still crap money for London........
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Really?? In London, where small one bedroom flats are knocking on the door of a grand a month??
RJ
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Indeed - I found a studio for £650 a month, a stone's throw away from Clapham Common Station and 5 minutes from Clapham High Street station. But then that suits me as a student. If you've a family to house I imagine it would be pretty difficult to live comfortably unless others were also contributing.
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Good for you. Some people don't want to share the same toilet / fridge / oven with relative strangers.
At the end of the financial year, you'll make between £23000-25000. This figure changes depending on what station you're placed at...if you have a slot on the blackfriars roster you'll probably make an extra £2000 a year because of the extra nights and Sundays.
In regards to benefits, you will get inner London allowance, shift supplements and Unsociable hours allowances. You also get free travel on all train operating companies owned by Govia, and 75% off London Underground Services.
In regards to benefits, you will get inner London allowance, shift supplements and Unsociable hours allowances. You also get free travel on all train operating companies owned by Govia, and 75% off London Underground Services.
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