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Fayxx

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If you haven't already, I think you need a solicitor - and quick. I'm not sure if you've uploaded all the correspondence you have received and what you have (#72) is difficult (for me) to see that it is from the same letter. How could page 1 be a fine from the court (which infers conviction and a fine / costs awarded against you) yet page 2 and 3 appear to relate to a court appearance this coming May?

If you haven't attended court at all, then the court will have no idea of your personal circumstances and apply a default methodology of collection of any fines / costs. You may wish to provide evidence of your financial circumstances that make it clear your income, fixed living costs (eg rent, travel costs(!), food, etc) so that they can see what your disposable income is. Payslips / bank statements will help you here, as will evidence of dependants (eg children). Only then can they reasonably be expected to change a repayment plan from the default to something more affordable (assuming the plan they have imposed is unaffordable to you).

If you can't afford a solicitor, then Citizen's Advice Bureau or even the court might be able to advise on how to engage in the process, but they are unlikely, unlike a solicitor, to be able to tell you what to say (for your benefit and best outcome).
Appreciate your advices, I have called the court and they advised me if you plead guilty you can get up to 30% off and you might not have to intend to court ( my case has not arrived to court yet from the TFL ) also contacted with a solicitor and said the chances if you have some expert letters like 25% out of court settlement. Im wondering if I can contact the TFL myself and how to contact them via email or what exactly?
 
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I think you need a solicitor - and quick.
A solicitor will be expensive and is unlikely to be able to provide much benefit to the OP. What it will do is incur significant additional expense (likely to be in the £500 to £750 range).
to be able to tell you what to say (for your benefit and best outcome).
I suspect the best advice will be to say "guilty" at the appropriate point in order to receive a one third discount on the fine.
 

Fayxx

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A solicitor will be expensive and is unlikely to be able to provide much benefit to the OP. What it will do is incur significant additional expense (likely to be in the £500 to £750 range).

I suspect the best advice will be to say "guilty" at the appropriate point in order to receive a one third discount on the fine.
And have a conviction on the side?
 

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Do the documents in post 72 relate to the same person? If so the notice of fine and collection order surely means that person has already been convicted of a criminal offence, so does it make a significant difference to plead guilty to the second offence?
 

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Do the documents in post 72 relate to the same person? If so the notice of fine and collection order surely means that person has already been convicted of a criminal offence, so does it make a significant difference to plead guilty to the second offence?
Or has the OP given a different name for a separate offence? I'm not quite clear what's going on there.
 

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Do the documents in post 72 relate to the same person? If so the notice of fine and collection order surely means that person has already been convicted of a criminal offence, so does it make a significant difference to plead guilty to the second offence?
For the first offence I reached back to them and they gave me the details of the incident day and found out was someone else so they stopped the payment and made re-open case.
 

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For the first offence I reached back to them and they gave me the details of the incident day and found out was someone else so they stopped the payment and made re-open case.
Thank you for clarifying that.
 
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