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[I'm here now]

Yet single decks are very common on the 17.

I wonder how the 19 has done. Most times I've looked on Bustimes.org everything has been running 30-45 min late. A symptom of too tight running time, too long a route through too many summer traffic blackspots and insufficient recovery time. Can't see it coming back in its current form next year.

19’s always been dead (with double deckers always!) on the St Ives - Hayle bit

 

[83G/84D]

A Kite EV is on the Truro Park & Ride today.

 

[Goldfish62]

A Kite EV is on the Truro Park & Ride today.

Ah yes. 73001.

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Ah yes. 73001.

And on Bustimes.org today it's the turn of 73006.

 

[83G/84D]

Wrightbus Kite EV's 73001 on the PR1A and 73006 on the PR1 in Truro today.

 

[I'm here now]

Rode on a new one today - bit more comfortable than the previous ones!

 

[Andyh82]

Rode on a new one today - bit more comfortable than the previous ones!

Do they have a First Bus interior or something else?

 

[Goldfish62]

Do they have a First Bus interior or something else?

Cornwall Council interior because that's who owns them, but different to the Citaros. It uses the same colour palette as the exterior. Low back seats, surprisingly, and because they're 1st Generation Kites there's no aircon.

 

[I'm here now]

Cornwall Council interior because that's who owns them, but different to the Citaros. It uses the same colour palette as the exterior. Low back seats, surprisingly, and because they're 1st Generation Kites there's no aircon.

There was also a first bus employee riding along in the bus

 

[Goldfish62]

There was also a first bus employee riding along in the bus

That's nice for them. Perhaps they were on holiday in Cornwall.

More seriously, perhaps as the buses were originally to be delivered to the First Bus as the originally expected operator of the contract there's some latent responsibility for getting them into service. Dartline is the current operator of Truro P&R.

 

[83G/84D]

I wonder what will happen to the Citaro’s when they are fully displaced from Truro Park and Ride?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

I wonder what will happen to the Citaro’s when they are fully displaced from Truro Park and Ride?

Owned by the council so sold by them. Buying some 11 year old Citaros (which are expensive to run and maintain) isn't that attractive to most operators so suggest that will be reflected in what they get for them.

 

[MotCO]

Owned by the council so sold by them. Buying some 11 year old Citaros (which are expensive to run and maintain) isn't that attractive to most operators so suggest that will be reflected in what they get for them.

I think @RJ has a penchant for them

 

[83G/84D]

Owned by the council so sold by them. Buying some 11 year old Citaros (which are expensive to run and maintain) isn't that attractive to most operators so suggest that will be reflected in what they get for them.

Yes I was aware of that, be interesting to see where they end up going.

 

[RJ]

I think @RJ has a penchant for them

Yes, I do . As I'm basically an owner operator I have to like what I spend my time driving and from a working environment perspective, I prefer Citaros (and Volvos for double deckers) to anything else I've driven over the years.

Owned by the council so sold by them. Buying some 11 year old Citaros (which are expensive to run and maintain) isn't that attractive to most operators so suggest that will be reflected in what they get for them.

Maybe not most, but there are a significant minority who are very pro-Citaro and there's a relative paucity of the type in the UK, so they do tend to get snapped up when they go on the market, for quite high prices too.

I would consider buying if the price is right, but no idea who to contact to discuss it. I did email transport@cornwall.gov.uk back in February but didn't receive a response from them. I did purchase a 2015 Citaro around the same time from somewhere else and very happy with it now.

As for being expensive to run and maintain, they're really not bad if everything is kept on top of and the correct parts and fluids are used. It's when that's deviated from in favour of operator's generic/preferred practices, or if issues aren't addressed in a timely manner that the costs increase.

 

[GBM]

Truro yard maintained them from new, and kept on top of them.
They knew all their foibles, etc, and were excellent at keeping them going.
Truro engineers did a brilliant job.

In the last few years of First, maintenance was transferred to Summercourt, with Truro only dealing with breakdowns and emergency repairs.
Invariably Summercourt sent them back in the same condition they arrived unfortunately.
Truro and the unions objected, but finances were so tight, the response was always 'tough'.

Such a shame.

 

[Goldfish62]

Another point in favour of the Citaros' onward sale is that they've not exactly had a hard life poodling up and down on Truro P&R.

 

[co-tr-paul]

Nice to see start to appear. Porthleven, Ashton and Breage.

 

[Goldfish62]

Nice to see start to appear. Porthleven, Ashton and Breage. View attachment 211146

Good stuff.

 

[RJ]

Another point in favour of the Citaros' onward sale is that they've not exactly had a hard life poodling up and down on Truro P&R.

Hopefully they will have had regular forced regenerations. I have to drive mine at 60mph for 20 minutes straight to complete the regeneration process. Fortunately I’m situated close to some decent stretches of road. I do speak to other owners and without the benefit of being able to do that it’s a case of scheduling in a session with a computer to force it when stationary.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Maybe not most, but there are a significant minority who are very pro-Citaro and there's a relative paucity of the type in the UK, so they do tend to get snapped up when they go on the market, for quite high prices too.

Another point in favour of the Citaros' onward sale is that they've not exactly had a hard life poodling up and down on Truro P&R.

All valid points but most independents see the fuel costs and the potential spare part costs and would be more inclined to have an e200 than a Citaro. Not saying that's the right choice but it's the one most take.