Getting on before people have got off

[MidnightFlyer]

How ironic that some of the contributors to a thread that is complaining about other people's lack of manners appear to have no manners themselves... and to be quite proud to admit it.

I was thinking that as well. A tad hypocritical, and two wrongs don't make a right!

If they do something to me, I will do something back. I ain't one to lie back and let people do whatever they want to me / others...

 

[ralphchadkirk]

If they do something to me, I will do something back. I ain't one to lie back and let people do whatever they want to me / others...

Come on, they've only got on a train before you've got off! It's not like they've punched your granny!

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Come on, they've only got on a train before you've got off! It's not like they've punched your granny!

Bad manners though, I hope the little catch / nudge makes them realise what they've done wrong. Of course, I would always ask them to let people get off first, if they don't listen, only then do I catch them.

 

[Intermodal]

I find somewhat equally bad to people trying to get on is people allowing others already on the train to alight but then not leaving them anywhere to go due to the large half-circle of people gathered around the doors. You generally just have to push yourself through the crowd instead then!

 

[Nonsense]

How ironic that some of the contributors to a thread that is complaining about other people's lack of manners appear to have no manners themselves... and to be quite proud to admit it.

Indeed, how long before another thread is started (to follow the ones about passengers with luggage, sitting in isle seats when the window is free, et all) to bemoan those antagonistic passengers that impede entrance/egress from trains with broadened shoulders or brief case attacks upon their shins?

 

[Dreadnought]

How ironic that some of the contributors to a thread that is complaining about other people's lack of manners appear to have no manners themselves... and to be quite proud to admit it.

So what is your solution to this issue then?

Do you think I should just stand aside while these people push their way on before I try to get off and then run the risk of being "overcarried"!

By the way if you read my post then you will see I stated that I say something along the lines of "CAN I GET OFF FIRST". If they continue to push on they will get bumped back off!

 

[Nonsense]

So what is your solution to this issue then?

Do you think I should just stand aside while these people push their way on before I try to get off and then run the risk of being "overcarried"!

By the way if you read my post then you will see I stated that I say something along the lines of "CAN I GET OFF FIRST". If they continue to push on they will get bumped back off!

Why stop at bumping them off? Why not push them to the ground and gob on them?

Are these people actually trying to walk through you? Or is it just that once they've gathered round the train doors, the weight of the crowd behind them makes it impossible to clear a path for you?

In situations like this, in my experience, passengers boarding the train aren't expecting to be in anyone's way.

 

[Boothby97]

I get this all the time at Grimsby Town, it the adults who do it to me, and I'm a kid (I do have good manners and respect others). Unlike some adults.

 

[Dreadnought]

Why stop at bumping them off? Why not push them to the ground and gob on them?

If you read my post properly it is those trying to push their way on whilst I'm still in the doorway that I will bump after making a comment about being allowed to get off first!

Are these people actually trying to walk through you? Or is it just that once they've gathered round the train doors, the weight of the crowd behind them makes it impossible to clear a path for you?

In situations like this, in my experience, passengers boarding the train aren't expecting to be in anyone's way.

As for those who crowd round the doorway I will always say excuse me as I move through them!

At least that way once I'm off and out of the way they can then board!

 

[trainophile]

I can understand clustering round the doors on the platform. People dot themselves at intervals along the platform, but don't know exactly where the train will stop, so when it is in the last moments of doing so they gravitate along towards where they calculate the doors will be, which creates a "bunching" effect. Those who were close to the front of the platform are not likely to want to step back again, thereby ending up behind others who will then be able to get on and bag seats before they do, because they (the "bunchers") may perceive that they have been waiting longer so should be first on board.

 

[Greenback]

I can understand clustering round the doors on the platform. People dot themselves at intervals along the platform, but don't know exactly where the train will stop, so when it is in the last moments of doing so they gravitate along towards where they calculate the doors will be, which creates a "bunching" effect. Those who were close to the front of the platform are not likely to want to step back again, thereby ending up behind others who will then be able to get on and bag seats before they do, because they (the "bunchers") may perceive that they have been waiting longer so should be first on board.

A reasonable explanation based in truth, but I believe it is actually simpler than that!

When our daily HST turns up there ar e alot of people waiting on the platform. There is no bunching and pushing though, as everyone knows ther ewill be a seat for them on board. As a result ther eis no rush to ge ton first.

Contrast this to just twenty four or so minutes later when a 3 car 175 comes in, already well filled with passengers. Regular commuters know roughly where the train will stop and where the doors will be. They gather at thes epoints in advance, desperate to be on of the first three or four to board, so that they can get a chance to sit down, and , perhaps mroe importantly, get first choice of which seat they want!

You should hear the tutting and see the forwns should someone have the audacity to want to get off at 'their' door! There is a real fear that others will get straight on through another door and get first dibs at the few seats left!

 

[trainophile]

That's another frustration - when there are people already boarding at the other end of the carriage, while at the door you're waiting at people are still lugging pushchairs and large suitcases off. Ah well, it's all part of the joys of train travel eh?

 

[Greenback]

That's another frustration - when there are people already boarding at the other end of the carriage, while at the door you're waiting at people are still lugging pushchairs and large suitcases off. Ah well, it's all part of the joys of train travel eh?

Yes, as mentioned elsewhere, sometimes it's all just down to luck!

One of the worst scrums I've ever seen was at Scarborough for the 1842 departure on Easter Saturday. It wa spainfully obvious long before the train arrived that there were too many people for the available number of seats. The resulting melee was rather unseemingly! It's put me off the place forever!

 

[Techniquest]

You're missing out then, Scarborough's a lovely place to go for a summer's day out. Much better than the beaches in Wales in my book! Only problem with the one in Scarborough is that massively steep hill you have to walk down/up to get to/from the beach!

 

[Jonny]

Well, i travel with a Lax kit bag, about 7ft long, so if theres someone in my way, i just hold that diagonalways across the door or corridor, and if theres someone in my way (which there only ever is if theres people barging their way on, i just push them back off the train (its a 156 that im on so with my bag, no-one can get past me

7ft long? isn't that over the max length for the conditions of carriage?

 

[Turbocharger]

It's the same in lifts. Full lift gets to a floor and everyone is surrounding it to get on. But it's full and they can't get on until people get out, and they are in the way so they can't get out.

But they still stand there like lemons!

Get out the bl**dy way you idiots or you can't get on!

I just tell them now, lift or train, "MOVE! or no one is going anywhere!"

 

[Stonesourscotty]

Wallgate is murder for this especially Southport and Kirkby bound during peak times Both Salford stations are bad for it to especially Central.

 

[158_Sprinter]

Birmingham New Street is the worst place I've experienced this problem. I was getting off a XC Plymouth - Dundee service which was already bursting at the seams, and passengers on the platform, seeing how full the train was, crowded the doors, and attempting to squeeze on, making it very hard for anyone to get off. Luckily I had a large suitcase with me and used it to fend people off and get them to step back, carving a path for others behind me to alight the train, saying something along the lines of "You can wait for us to get off first, before you get on".

I was taught to allow people off before I got on a train. If I'm first in the "queue" to get on a train, I make sure to leave sufficient space for people to alight.