Getting a Train Cleaning Job, Unbelievable!!!!!

[AndyN]

I rarely mention work on Social Media has when I'm not there I like to forget about it. I'm talking more, football/sport/gambling/booze/political/life rant statuses, some un pc, controversial etc but my point is my free time is exactly that

 

[185]

A lot of people commenting that the OP has failed the attitude test. Just out of curiosity what is the right attitude?

Actually wanting the job is perhaps the most positive attitude.

Far too often see persons at interview, simply because they have to attend or their JSA will be sanctioned, or they have a selection of other things lined up and this is perhaps their eleventh choice in their 'list'. Sadly, for some roles, there are also those simply after the money, with little or no interest in the job.

Being frustrated at lack of success following repeated applications is quite understandable, and certainly not indicative of a person deemed a psychologically unsuitable candidate - quite the opposite infact.

 

[Nevillehill]

Another daft thing I hear nowadays is how employers can snoop on peoples Facebook and my mate who is a ass kisser told me I need to toe the line on some of my statuses and some of the things I put up as employers could read it. Sorry but what I do and put on Social Media in my own time is my business and say what I want in my own time and if a potential employer snoops on my Facebook etc then again that is not a employer I want to work for anyway so they saved me the bother. What anyone puts on Social Media has no relevance to how well they can do a job.

Not just employers, and you can't go slagging people or companies off on social media, quickest way to get the sack , might sound harsh but that's the way it is, they like to see your attitude etc , who you socialise with, if you don't want that , best thing is to keep off the net.[/QUOTE]


Or don't add people on sad book who you don't know, keep it private so only friends can see your profile, better still get of Facebook and get a hobby, and a life.

 

[185]

Having seen a major train operating company be forced to admit in court, they in effect i) accessed ii) signed in as another person and iii) actively hacked a users account via their solicitor who used a paid consultancy firm to do it - I would expect our privacy laws to supersede those in Germany / the EU. A recommendation for the union solicitor by the judge was to also scrutinise the train company's social media policy and how it would, in parts, breach the basics freedoms of speech available to us.

On condition it is within the law, non-slanderous or defamatory - discussion should never be stifled, I'd expect that in China, not here.

 

[railfan100]

Not wishing to be too far off topic but I think that recruitment and employment in general in many parts of the railway these days is odd to say the least. Whilst I no longer work in the railway these days and post from a neutral perspective I feel it is very much at odds. I find the driver grade the strangest. We have train drivers in some cases earning higher salary payments than first officers in 737\A32x aircraft.

It is upside down to say the least these first officers have in so many instances landed themselves in years of struggle and six figure debts to earn less than a job that can pass out qualified drivers in 12 months give or take.

I fail to understand the way the private railway system is heading in general, to me train drivers should earn little more than bus drivers as the job is comparable, whilst this may sound like a sweeping statement for the conditioned mind both positions are safety critical.

To me anyone that is presentable and has attention to detail can clean trains, any form of assessment is nothing short of a joke! What next passengers have to take psychometric tests before they can travel by train?!

 

[Darandio]

I fail to understand the way the private railway system is heading in general, to me train drivers should earn little more than bus drivers as the job is comparable, whilst this may sound like a sweeping statement for the conditioned mind both positions are safety critical.

I'm not aware of any buses hurtling along at 125mph with 600 people inside. There isn't that much to compare.

You have also opened an enormous can of worms.

 

[railfan100]

I'm not aware of any buses hurtling along at 125mph with 600 people inside. There isn't that much to compare.

You have also opened an enormous can of worms.

The Airbus A320 hurtles along in cruise at over 500mph, What did I say about conditioned minds?

 

[Darandio]

The Airbus A320 hurtles along in cruise at over 500mph, What did I say about conditioned minds?

I couldn't care less about any air/railway comparisons, I was talking about making bus/railway comparable, it just isn't.

 

[mac]

Not wishing to be too far off topic but I think that recruitment and employment in general in many parts of the railway these days is odd to say the least. Whilst I no longer work in the railway these days and post from a neutral perspective I feel it is very much at odds. I find the driver grade the strangest. We have train drivers in some cases earning higher salary payments than first officers in 737\A32x aircraft.

It is upside down to say the least these first officers have in so many instances landed themselves in years of struggle and six figure debts to earn less than a job that can pass out qualified drivers in 12 months give or take.

I fail to understand the way the private railway system is heading in general, to me train drivers should earn little more than bus drivers as the job is comparable, whilst this may sound like a sweeping statement for the conditioned mind both positions are safety critical.

To me anyone that is presentable and has attention to detail can clean trains, any form of assessment is nothing short of a joke! What next passengers have to take psychometric tests before they can travel by train?!

That post should get this thread up to 50 pages or locked

 

[railfan100]

I couldn't care less about any air/railway comparisons, I was talking about making bus/railway comparable, it just isn't.

Do read the post I made in full, first officers taking aircraft from takeoff to cruise and landing in some airlines earn less than the driving grade from some TOC. A train driver can pass from nothing to qualified in a shortish time in-terms of learning professional skills in general. First officers take significantly more training and I would say require more skill and aptitude.

In addition driving a bus is a highly responsible job that equally deserves comparable remuneration to that of a train driver. Both positions are safety critical after all. job roles are normally remunerated in terms of responsibility and overall skill to conduct, although perhaps not where the rail industry is involved.

 

[amateur]

Actually wanting the job is perhaps the most positive attitude.

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I wanted to know whether my rejecting a job, because it's not EXACTLY what I want, means I have the wrong attitude towards work, because I'm picky.

Some people will accept anything. Is that the attitude I should approach. Accept what is given, even if you don't like it.