No, scanning your ticket is not a condition of using an eTicket unlesss the station has gates
It isn’t a condition.
Exactly, and apart from an e-ticket not working the gates, there are other legitimate reasons why someone might not have scanned their e-ticket before boarding the train even if the gates are in operation. For example you might have changed off another train for which you have a separate ticket. Where this is the case it is surely unreasonable to expect you to exit and then re-enter the station where you change trains and change tickets, although it may then be advisable to show your ticket from the previous leg of the journey as evidence.
I suspect that you may be frightening yourself for very little reason. Millions of us use etickets every day that the trains are running and don't encounter any risks. Problems do occur, but in my experience it involves the gates mysteriously not opening when the ticket is scanned. That is almost always caused by scanning the wrong half of a return ticket. Easily corrected once the mistake is identified.
And, as I said, you can’t push through closed gates, but if they’re open there is no requirement to scan the ticket. Plus the cases @AY1975 describes.
Maybe i should have said theres no need to scan your ticket unless the station had gates. BTW both the TIS we use onboard and in Travel Centres can show the scan history of any ticket.
Yeah sure start filming every interaction you have, it'll make your life much easier and do wonders for your mental wellbeing and sense of social trust.
I would have thought paper tickets are exactly the answer to your particular set of concerns. Their lack of digital footprint gives the railway far less opportunity to misuse and misinterpret their own rules.
Assuming the scans are making their way through and not being dropped on the floor some TISs like to do
You could also just edit the metadata, it is always funny when people advance this as evidence. Could screengrab a wiki picture and just edit time and location in your phone.
It's perhaps worth noting that that wasn't the only unusual thing the poster in that thread did. As it happens that poster tells us that they have third party evidence which will allay the railway's suspicions, but it seems to me that the lack of scan by itself would not have caused the incident to be written up.
You could, at twice the cost, buy two paper tickets and put them in different places.
Well indeed, that has been the basis of ticketing systems since... well, forever. The evidence is the ticket. If you lose the ticket you buy another one, same as if you lose a 20 pound note it's basically gone. I once lost my work passes for the train. It cost me 60 odd quid for a ticket. That's life.
I think that's a little unkind. However, it does sound like the OP is not temperamentally suited to reading the Disputes & Prosecutions forum.
That is very diplomatic of you
