Masbroughlad
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Is one available that allows travel for 3 or 4 days out of 7? Preferably for 2 people, but can buy 2 individual ones if necessary. Thanks in advance.
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gordonthemoron
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German Rail Pass
BTW, this is only valid on DB trains, there are a number of lines with no DB services at all
BTW, this is only valid on DB trains, there are a number of lines with no DB services at all
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If you live in Europe you need to get an Interrail pass, depending on your travel plans it could be worth looking at a combination of Lander / Schönes Wochenende Tickets (local/national Non-Intercity) and long distance advance tickets.
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There's also the Quer-Durch-Land day ticket. Not valid on IC, EC or ICE but valid throughout Germany on most operator's services. 42 for individuals plus 6 for each additional person up to a maximum of 6.
Details here.
Details here.
Is it valid on non-DB trains, like the weekend version?
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As far as I know, it is. I've seen a pdf somewhere which lists all the private railway companies that these and similar tickets are valid on which I can't find at the moment but quoting from the web site, it says;
So, you should be Ok on the vast majority of trains.
Don't forget to check out the various Länder tickets. Some cover very large areas and can be a real bargain.
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Found the pdf. It was actually for Interail/Eurail/etc. but I would guess that the validity will be generally the same. Having said that, I'd be tempted to check in a Reisezentrum when you get to Germany to be on the safe side. It can be downloaded here.
I've used that list and what is really needed is someone with the appropriate knowledge and enthusiasm to turn it into a list of routes and restrictions that the ordinary traveller can easily digest. A list of routes where tickets can't be used would do.
WestCoast
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For most tickets, any private operator which is contracted by regional state government should be fine (so most of them really).
However, the Germany rail pass is a bit different.
For sheer value on regional trains you can't beat Länder and schönes Wochenende tickets.
However, the Germany rail pass is a bit different.
For sheer value on regional trains you can't beat Länder and schönes Wochenende tickets.
Masbroughlad
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What are Bahn 25 and Bahn 50 cards. Can non-German citizens get them?
I have looked at advance bookings on DB website and if you know exactly where and when you want to do some day trips, there are some good advance tix available.
At the moment, I am looking at a few days in Copenhagen and then either train or plane to Cologne (pref train). From there, a few days out - Aachen, Hannover, Koblenz, Rudesheim etc.
Any more handy hints gratefully received. Thanks in advance.
I have looked at advance bookings on DB website and if you know exactly where and when you want to do some day trips, there are some good advance tix available.
At the moment, I am looking at a few days in Copenhagen and then either train or plane to Cologne (pref train). From there, a few days out - Aachen, Hannover, Koblenz, Rudesheim etc.
Any more handy hints gratefully received. Thanks in advance.
gordonthemoron
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anyone can get a bahncard, the 25 version offers 25% off full price tickets and Spar (Savings) Tickets. The 50 version offers 50% off full price tickets only
Masbroughlad
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How much do they cost? Where could I buy them?
Also, if travelling FIRST CLASS on IC and ICE trains, what service/refreshments do you get?
blackfive460
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Look on the DB web site, all the information you need is there.
If you mean for free, aside from a German newspaper (you'll get UK & French ones on international ICEs though), nothing but there is a paid for at seat service of refreshments which would be reasonably priced if it weren't for the exchange rate!
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I'm currently in Frankfurt for a few months with work and have learnt that split-ticketing can save quite a bit if most of your journey can be done in one state (Bundesland).
For example, I wanted to have a day trip from Frankfurt to Koblenz. The single ticket for regional trains is 23.10 each way. A Quer-durchs-land ticket is available weekdays for 42, while at the weekend the same journey can be done with a Schönes Wochenende Ticket for 39 (which is also valid on all local public transport at either end). But another option is to look at the Ländertickets, of which there is one for each state, with the smaller states being bolted on to the nearest larger neighbour's ticket. Koblenz is in Rheinland-Pfalz, whose Länderticket day rover is 21 for one person and valid over the border to Wiesbaden. Wiesbaden is in the same local transport authority as Frankfurt (RMV), so local fares are subsidised, making a day return between the two 14.60.
For you, being based in Cologne, if you want to visit anywhere in Rheinland-Pfalz, the RP-Länderticket is valid to/from Bonn, which is in the same transport authority as Cologne (VRS). Two singles between Cologne and Bonn are 13.60 (that's cheaper than a day ticket for that journey). Then from Bonn you can use the RP-Länderticket to get anywhere in Rheinland-Pfalz (including Koblenz) or Saarland (which is bolted on because it's too small to have its own ticket) and back again for 21. That's a total cost of 34.60. A through ticket from Cologne to Koblenz (two singles) is 34.80 - the saving might not be much for that journey but if you're going beyond Koblenz then the savings start to add up.
The only downside of those special offer tickets is that they restrict you to local and regional trains. IC and ICE trains are quicker but more expensive to use and often quite overcrowded.
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You mention Rüdesheim, which I can highly recommend. That will be cheaper using two singles to get between Cologne and Bonn and then using the Rheinland-Pfalz Ticket - total 34.60 for the day end-to-end.
A standard ticket from Cologne to Rüdesheim is 27 each way.
The RP-Ticket can be bought from any station in Germany (as can any regional rover ticket), even outside the ticket's area of validity. So you can buy it in Cologne at the start of your journey along with a single to Bonn.
For example, I wanted to have a day trip from Frankfurt to Koblenz. The single ticket for regional trains is 23.10 each way. A Quer-durchs-land ticket is available weekdays for 42, while at the weekend the same journey can be done with a Schönes Wochenende Ticket for 39 (which is also valid on all local public transport at either end). But another option is to look at the Ländertickets, of which there is one for each state, with the smaller states being bolted on to the nearest larger neighbour's ticket. Koblenz is in Rheinland-Pfalz, whose Länderticket day rover is 21 for one person and valid over the border to Wiesbaden. Wiesbaden is in the same local transport authority as Frankfurt (RMV), so local fares are subsidised, making a day return between the two 14.60.
For you, being based in Cologne, if you want to visit anywhere in Rheinland-Pfalz, the RP-Länderticket is valid to/from Bonn, which is in the same transport authority as Cologne (VRS). Two singles between Cologne and Bonn are 13.60 (that's cheaper than a day ticket for that journey). Then from Bonn you can use the RP-Länderticket to get anywhere in Rheinland-Pfalz (including Koblenz) or Saarland (which is bolted on because it's too small to have its own ticket) and back again for 21. That's a total cost of 34.60. A through ticket from Cologne to Koblenz (two singles) is 34.80 - the saving might not be much for that journey but if you're going beyond Koblenz then the savings start to add up.
The only downside of those special offer tickets is that they restrict you to local and regional trains. IC and ICE trains are quicker but more expensive to use and often quite overcrowded.
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You mention Rüdesheim, which I can highly recommend. That will be cheaper using two singles to get between Cologne and Bonn and then using the Rheinland-Pfalz Ticket - total 34.60 for the day end-to-end.
A standard ticket from Cologne to Rüdesheim is 27 each way.
The RP-Ticket can be bought from any station in Germany (as can any regional rover ticket), even outside the ticket's area of validity. So you can buy it in Cologne at the start of your journey along with a single to Bonn.
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"For as little as 140 €". Nice.
blackfive460
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Sounds expensive to me. Though it might help if we knew what it is that costs 140...
Masbroughlad
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Just checked out the Copenhagen to Cologne journey - how excited?! A proper train ferry!! 
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