• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Geneva

Status
Not open for further replies.

72C

Member
Joined
11 Jun 2010
Messages
76
Can anybody help with transfer times (walking or tram) between Geneva Main and Eaux Vives. On the map it does not look that far, but no evidence of Eaux vives station, hence the post. Traveling from Geneva to Annecy.

Many thanks.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

newmilton

Member
Joined
24 Feb 2010
Messages
174
The walk would be at least 20-25 minutes, I would think, at a brisk pace; more with baggage ... and it's not that direct. There is a tram - number 16 or 17 if memory serves - which would be quicker and considerably less stressful.

There are plans to build a line, largely underground, to connect the two stations, but I am not sure if they are still on track (so to speak!)
 
Last edited:

72C

Member
Joined
11 Jun 2010
Messages
76
Hi Newmilton

Thanks for the info. I think it will be the tram unless I've a long time to wait. From what I can read Eaux Vives is a single line branch. Have you used it?.
I will keep an eye out for the under ground system!!!!
 

newmilton

Member
Joined
24 Feb 2010
Messages
174
The underground link is a long way off, even if still on track. The tram you need is the 16 which goes from the stop under the railway bridge to the right as you come out of the main exit from Geneva station (not the main tram stop directly in front of the station). Take it towards Moillesulaz, and get off at Amandoliers/SNCF. Eau Vives will be to your left on a side street. You buy your ticket from the machine at the stop, and will want a "Tout Geneve" ticket which is about 3 Francs.

The Geneva public transit site (in French) is here: http://www.tpg.ch/fr/index.php

I've never taken the train from Eau Vives though I have friends who live in the area and I know Geneva well. Eau Vives (you may already know this) is part of the French system not the Swiss, and somewhat run down. I've attached a couple of shots. You may need to change at Annemasse just across the border into France.

Annecy is lovely, by the way.
 

Attachments

  • eauvives1.jpg
    eauvives1.jpg
    66.5 KB · Views: 17
  • eauvives2.jpg
    eauvives2.jpg
    62.4 KB · Views: 18

72C

Member
Joined
11 Jun 2010
Messages
76
Thanks again. Looking forward to the trip. Out via Geneva to Lacarno, then back to Geneva and on to friends in Annecy via Eaux Vives.
 

Gordon

Member
Joined
11 Feb 2011
Messages
1,128
Location
Surrey
Legally the Eaux Vives line is neither French nor 'Swiss'. The Swiss section is the Chemin de fer de l'Etat de Genève (Geneva State Railway).

Here's an extract from an article an article of mine that has been published in the SNCF Society Journal:

the Annemasse – Genève Eaux Vives line, which is set to be the line most affected by the CEVA project. This line was the only part of the original planned loop from Haute Savoie into Genève Cornavin to be built, and was opened in 1888. Just 6km long it crosses the border 2km after leaving Annemasse, then runs for 4km through back yards of the expanded Geneva suburbs, through the station at Chêne Bourg serving what was once a separate town but is now a suburb of Geneve.

Although at face value an ‘SNCF’ line, the 4km section in Switzerland belongs to the Canton (State) of Geneva and is therefore arguably one of the smallest ‘state railways’ in the world! Its legal title is Chemin de fer de l’Etat de Geneve (Geneva state railway).

The line parallels Geneva tram route 12, which itself ran beyond the border (and present terminus) at Moillesulaz into Annemasse until 1958. Chêne Bourg station was closed in the mid 1980s and ‘replaced’ by a station in the French suburb of Ambilly which is squeezed in between Annemasse and the Swiss border. The line was 100% steam worked until the arrival of SNCF diesel railbuses and railcars in the 1950s, and subsequently electrified in 1986. Despite the regular shuttles being railcar, some peak period steam services ran through to the mid-1960s. For such a short line, it has seen a remarkable number of different classes of diesel and electric railcars used since the 1950s, culminating in the use of some of the latest French TER Rhône Alpes double deck EMUs. The associated branch from Annemasse to La Roche sur Foron does not immediately affect Switzerland but does carry passengers from Geneva travelling to Annecy or St Gervais, particularly at summer weekends and for skiing in winter.








Gordon

Technical Adviser SNCF Society
Family resident near Geneva since 1949
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top