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GBRf Class 60s

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60095 is back out again today, presently working 6N86 Tyne Coal Terminal - Lynemouth Power Station

Edit: As of 03/01, 60095 is still the only one working today

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Looking at RTT tonight, it appears that none of the GBRF 60s have been out today
 
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Wednesday morning update

60002 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 N
60004 GBSD TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U
60014 GBSD TOTON TMD LONGPTDBC U
60018 GBSD TOTON TMD LOUGBO HS D
60021 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 N
60026 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F X
60047 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD 4 D
60056 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY F N
60076 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 N
60085 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD T
60087 GBTG BOROBRDLC LEEMG BAR T
60095 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 N
60096 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 N

Dan
 

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So, GBRf have officially stood them down now, right? Has it been confirmed anywhere from a reputable source yet?
 

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So, GBRf have officially stood them down now, right? Has it been confirmed anywhere from a reputable source yet?

I've heard that GBRf told 'Modern Railways' magazine that they were being placed into warm storage pending review of future requirements, if so I assume anyone with a subscription to MR would be able to find the article
 

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Sunday morning update

60002 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 S
60004 GBSD TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U
60014 GBSD TOTON TMD LONGPTDBC U
60018 GBSD TOTON TMD LOUGBO HS D
60021 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 S
60026 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F X
60047 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD 4 D
60056 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY F S
60076 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 S
60085 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD N
60087 GBTG BOROBRDLC LEEMG BAR T
60095 GBTG TYNEDK GB 130D63CL11 0 * DONCDNDCY N
60096 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 S

60002, 60021, 60056, 60076 & 60096 showing as stored at location.

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60095 is currently on 0D63, running from Tyne Dock - Doncaster

And if it is 60095 on its way to Chaddesden then it left Doncaster 189 late with a 205 late arrival

Reported on WNXX that "60085 and/or 60095 is/are being prepared for hire to DCR"
 
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A sighting on Rail Record says that 60085 was on yesterday's 0E66 Toton TMD - Belmont Down Yard along with 66079 & 66091? Unsure how correct this is however
 

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Monday morning update

60002 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 S
60004 GBSD TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U
60014 GBSD TOTON TMD LONGPTDBC U
60018 GBSD TOTON TMD LOUGBO HS D
60021 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 S
60026 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F X
60047 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD 4 D
60056 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY F S
60076 GBTG TYNEDK GB TYNEDK GB 0 S
60085 GBTG DONCBELMD DONCBELMD F N
60087 GBTG BOROBRDLC LEEMG BAR T
60095 GBTG CHADDESDN 570Z282B12 F LESTER SD N
60096 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 S

Note; 60095 on hire to DCR

Dan
 

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Found this statement from GBRF in Modern Railways

"A GBRf spokesperson told Modern Railways on 7 January: “With our new bi-mode Class 99s entering service imminently, we are undertaking an analysis of our locomotive fleet. For the time being, we have placed our Class 60 locomotives into warm storage pending review of their future requirements.”"

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60002 and 60076, along with 66311, are set to work today's 0D63 Tyne Coal Terminal - Doncaster Down Decoy
 
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60002 and 60076, along with 66311, are set to work today's 0D63 Tyne Coal Terminal - Doncaster Down Decoy

On their way now behind 66311, another couple of moves today are 60095 on 0803 6F25 Penmaenmawr Quarry to Humberstone Rd & 1243 0F25 to Toton TMD and 60026 on 1430 0Z60 Toton TMD to Chaddesden
 

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Monday afternoon update

All 6 of the ones at Doncaster now showing as stored

60002 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 0 S
60004 GBSD TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U
60014 GBSD TOTON TMD LONGPTDBC U
60018 GBSD TOTON TMD LOUGBO HS D
60021 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 S
60026 GBTG CHADDESDN CHADDESDN F N
60047 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD 4 D
60056 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY F S
60076 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 0 S
60085 GBTG DONCBELMD DONCDNDCY S
60087 GBTG BOROBRDLC LEEMG BAR T
60095 GBTG TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F D
60096 GBTG DONCDNDCY DONCDNDCY 4 S

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Word is going round on WNXX that GBRf has purchased the 10 Class 60s that they were formerly leasing from Beacon Rail.
 

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Word is going round on WNXX that GBRf has purchased the 10 Class 60s that they were formerly leasing from Beacon Rail.
Well let's hope that's right, then they might have a future
 

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Seems very strange, all 60s, and then some 47s and 69s stored within a few weeks of each other, that's a fair few locos stored
 

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I was in Newcastle a couple of weeks ago and saw 66768 on the Lynemouth - Tyne Coal Terminal (and reverse) workings. It really struggled to get going from a standstill and sounded under a lot of strain, to the extent where I almost had to cover my ears due to the racket. In that moment I understood why this used to be a surefire Class 60 working.

I could understand them 'making do' with the standard 66/7's when they decided to store the 60's, but I really can't understand the logic behind buying the 60's if they're not going to use them.
 

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perhaps also HS2 work hasn't materialised to the extent expected.
HS2 traffic is certainly low and in a bit of lull at the moment but should pickup as the Euston tunnels start in earnest so spoil moves will pick up, the segments have been running at steady state pace for while (about 9% delivered pre TBM start). HS2 traffic likely won't recover to previous peak levels and is more likely to be low traffic levels for much longer.

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Seems very strange, all 60s, and then some 47s and 69s stored within a few weeks of each other, that's a fair few locos stored
Construction traffic and material volumes (apart from HS2) are low at the moment so needing fewer locos will be the main reason and the 99s arriving will being some consideration of the more unusual parts of the fleet. e.g. 59, 47s (some of the the 69s have the some mode for moving MUs?) and 60.

With the 69s it could be something as simple as wheels getting thin on some of them so they are storing those 69s to push the parts replacement cost further into the future?

60s are owned by Beacon, 69s are owned by Progress Rail so returning some to the ROSCOs may be the medium term aim if there is no long tern use for them.
 
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I really can't understand the logic behind buying the 60's if they're not going to use them.
There could be many reasons including what the terms of the lease are around length of contract and termination clauses that mean Beacon see it as advantageous to be able to get them off the books. Don’t forget Beacon have bought Eversholt… who own the the earlier build of the GBRf 66s.
 

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I was in Newcastle a couple of weeks ago and saw 66768 on the Lynemouth - Tyne Coal Terminal (and reverse) workings. It really struggled to get going from a standstill and sounded under a lot of strain, to the extent where I almost had to cover my ears due to the racket. In that moment I understood why this used to be a surefire Class 60 working.

I could understand them 'making do' with the standard 66/7's when they decided to store the 60's, but I really can't understand the logic behind buying the 60's if they're not going to use them.
Aye, I heard 66799 pass by this morning, and later heard 66689 heading in the other direction. The noise difference between the two! 66689 was so much quieter - maybe she was struggling less than 799 due to her regeared bogies?
 

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Aye, I heard 66799 pass by this morning, and later heard 66689 heading in the other direction. The noise difference between the two! 66689 was so much quieter - maybe she was struggling less than 799 due to her regeared bogies?
I would say that's almost certainly the case! I also saw 66689 and it was noticeably more comfortable.

I was under the impression that GBRf were re-gearing 10 of their 66's to ensure they could take over services from the 60's, but so far only 66689 has run on this service.
 

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Just a note that this is about the GBRf 60 fleet. I think a wider discussion of their overall rolling stock strategy probably requires a separate thread for a more wide ranging discussion.
 

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Just a note that this is about the GBRf 60 fleet. I think a wider discussion of their overall rolling stock strategy probably requires a separate thread for a more wide ranging discussion.

A tad pedantic? I read all of todays posts and in the most it relates the 60's being withdrawn and all other posts were related to that (inc 66s/69s). At no point did i think the posts were off topic.
 

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