Gangwayed units (was 156)

[HLE]

I’ve been on a 153 when it happened in the driving cab as the unit was just coasting along.

Nice welcome draft on a hot day!

 

[hexagon789]

319s ?

As Domh245 says they are not for passing between vehicles they are for emergency evacuation purposes. I think they are needed for operation in tunnels with limited clearance where you can't ecacyate out the passenger doors, the 313s, 314s and 315s have this arrangement as well.

 

[43096]

As Domh245 says they are not for passing between vehicles they are for emergency evacuation purposes. I think they are needed for operation in tunnels with limited clearance where you can't ecacyate out the passenger doors, the 313s, 314s and 315s have this arrangement as well.

The end doors on the 319s were specifically required for the Farringdon - Moorgate section. As this section has now closed, the 700s don't need the end doors.

 

[hexagon789]

The end doors on the 319s were specifically required for the Farringdon - Moorgate section. As this section has now closed, the 700s don't need the end doors.

I didn't really think about the 700s not having them but that makes sense.

 

[James James]

I didn't really think about the 700s not having them but that makes sense.

It's worth noting that the 717 however does have an exit "door", although it's not all that obvious.

 

[hexagon789]

It's worth noting that the 717 however does have an exit "door", although it's not all that obvious.

I can just about make it out.

 

[Kneedown]

I'm going off photos and descriptions by other people regarding the 153s it did look at bit tight to me but could easily be down to the angle the photo was taken. I have been in a 156 cab though, it's a bit of a squish for your legs under the desk.

Very much a squish, and i've only got little legs. Worse still, I always end up scuffing the polish on my bulled up boots!

 

[hexagon789]

Very much a squish, and i've only got little legs. Worse still, I always end up scuffing the polish on my bulled up boots!

I can well imagine, I like 156s but being 6 foot 3 I'm quite glad I don't drive them for a few hours!

 

[DanTrain]

It's worth noting that the 717 however does have an exit "door", although it's not all that obvious.

There’s a great video somewhere of the steps folding down automatically on a 717. I’m not sure what anyone in a wheelchair is supposed to do, I guess they can be carried though.

 

[hexagon789]

There’s a great video somewhere of the steps folding down automatically on a 717. I’m not sure what anyone in a wheelchair is supposed to do, I guess they can be carried though.

I'm not sure you could actually get a wheelchair out of the gap to be honest.

 

[edwin_m]

Even if you could get a wheelchair down the ramp you'd be lucky to be able to roll it down the fourfoot and over the various obstructions to be found there. In the event of evacuation it's likely that (depending on circumstances) wheelchair users would be assisted by others or might have to remain on the train until help arrived.

 

[whhistle]

Why do bimodes "not count"? They can run on diesel and are replacing diesel trains. Not getting what your point is - probably because you are just randomly making stuff up to try to support it.

They're hybrid, so not fully diesel.
The wires going up enable the bi-modes to run part electric, so diesel only trains were never going to be ordered for that route.
You can't compare a train that is half diesel half electric when talking about the lack of diesel trains that have been ordered.

The fact still remains - there's a shortage of "pure" diesel units, because nobody ordered any.
Compare the past 10 years on how many electric units have been introduced compared with diesel.

So... there's no "making it up to support 'it'" <-- whatever "it" is.