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Soupdragon

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Just what on earth was going on in EC Control?

I would think it was probably in meltdown.

I passed through Doncaster at about 11:45 yesterday morning and already knew from my control about the problems on ECML . Instructed to advise my passengers heading for London to travel via Sheffield or Manchester.

If anyone on here was on that train Im sorry i didnt come round and check tickets etc, I couldnt get out of the cab :roll: but at least we managed to get you to Sheffield in time for the 12:27 to St Pancras :D
 
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EAST COAST MAINLINE IS SHUT UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE ACCORDING TO EAST COAST. I'm on a train that is sat in KGX going as 1330 to Inverness, Passengers Standing. East coast staff sat down, according to reports this service is going to PBO. Then to Doncaster via Lincoln.



I was on the same train mate. Id been at KGX since 11am. All passengers were being advised to go to Euston or St Pancras for Northbound trains. That 1330 was a shocker with the amount of people standing. I gave up my seat to a couple of old dears who were going to Glasgow eventually and i stood at the door by the buffet car with the window down for cool air and never got a seat until after NCL. it was like a pack of animals literally fighting for seats and ignoring the people who really needed them. We waited on a route conductor at PBO which was around 40min and i got the shock of my life when we branched off to the right shortly after leaving PBO. Never done that route before and was amazed it took so long to cover, maybe something to do with the line speed only being about 50mph all the way on mostly jointed track too.

It must have taken over 2 hours to get to Donny. We passed atleast 3 other EC hsts heading south on that line along with several freight which included 2 60s (one on tanks and one light) and 3 66s tied up with FL flats (poss gbrf) and 4 or 5 ews 66s tied up running light. There was a 37 and a 33 TAT on a charter at YRK too. The train stopped at York,Darlington,Durham,Newcastle and Berwick. After Newcastle the train emptied a wee bit but up until then it was full. Arrived in Edin at 2015 and was advertised on the screens as the 2035 to INV. No idea if it ran though i was away home by then although it was announced on the train that the ETA for arr in INV was Midnight.:cry:
 

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Hooray!

My Class 91 hauled train back home has just terminated at Doncaster, and we've all transferred to an already busy HST. What is it with OHLE trouble this weekend?
 

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I was on the same train mate. Id been at KGX since 11am. All passengers were being advised to go to Euston or St Pancras for Northbound trains. That 1330 was a shocker with the amount of people standing. I gave up my seat to a couple of old dears who were going to Glasgow eventually and i stood at the door by the buffet car with the window down for cool air and never got a seat until after NCL. it was like a pack of animals literally fighting for seats and ignoring the people who really needed them. We waited on a route conductor at PBO which was around 40min and i got the shock of my life when we branched off to the right shortly after leaving PBO. Never done that route before and was amazed it took so long to cover, maybe something to do with the line speed only being about 50mph all the way on mostly jointed track too.

It must have taken over 2 hours to get to Donny. We passed atleast 3 other EC hsts heading south on that line along with several freight which included 2 60s (one on tanks and one light) and 3 66s tied up with FL flats (poss gbrf) and 4 or 5 ews 66s tied up running light. There was a 37 and a 33 TAT on a charter at YRK too. The train stopped at York,Darlington,Durham,Newcastle and Berwick. After Newcastle the train emptied a wee bit but up until then it was full. Arrived in Edin at 2015 and was advertised on the screens as the 2035 to INV. No idea if it ran though i was away home by then although it was announced on the train that the ETA for arr in INV was Midnight.:cry:

Ahh i was down in just past the buffet. helping move luggage. and even helped getting the buffet order on quickly at doncaster, yes did run through to inverness in doing so made the highland cheiftain 1hr 30min late. and terminating it at Edinburgh
 

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Babtism of fire the many EC noobs who only expected to be handing out ham or ploughmans this week.
 

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Thunderbird 67 Arrow on duty! My train I'm on back from Edinburgh is being pulled by it....

Looking Like East Coast are Terminating Electric's at York. With 1 ph Electric towards KGX, with the rest being HST's.
 

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1908 Kings Cross-Lincoln appears to be extended to Leeds via Lincoln this evening. Though it does show some strange times on LDB!!!
 
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1908 Kings Cross-Lincoln appears to be extended to Leeds via Lincoln this evening. Though it does show some strange times on LDB!!!

That's an obscure route!! Would it be Lincoln-Gainsborough-Doncaster-Wakefield?
 
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This is i guess because the 1905 KX-LDS has been cancelled, it will surely just run the same way as it would if it were going empty to nev hill but calling at doni and wakey
 

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The 19.08 is in the path of the 19.15 to Lincoln which at KGX is shown extended to Leeds. Luckily I live in Peterborough so am catching the 19.22 FCC rather than be ramrod. Thank goodness for FCC - am I the first person so say that this week....
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I note the 19.15 to Lincoln / Leeds arrives Lincoln 21.16 and Leeds 21.21. I'm impressed...
 

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The 19.08 is in the path of the 19.15 to Lincoln which at KGX is shown extended to Leeds. Luckily I live in Peterborough so am catching the 19.22 FCC rather than be ramrod. Thank goodness for FCC - am I the first person so say that this week....

No you're not, I was grateful that FCC were still running a full service between Peterborough and Kings Cross.

It would have been nice if some kind of East Coast shuttle service could have been used between Kings Cross and Grantham via Sleaford using the Allington curve and restarting the 91 operated services from Grantham for Leeds or Doncaster for Newcastle/Scotland.

Do any traincrews from East Coast learn the route between Peterborough and Grantham via Sleaford?

1908 Kings Cross-Lincoln appears to be extended to Leeds via Lincoln this evening. Though it does show some strange times on LDB!!!

Indeed, it's showing as arriving at Lincoln AND Leeds at 21:03!
 

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I think my browser is malfunctioning. It is displyaing a clear compliment to FCC up there. I will get it immediately re-installed and hopefully it'll work properly soon.
 

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In situations like this I would normally say use Chrome and you won't get the problem, but it says the same in my browser :shock:
 

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Glad I'm not in Elaine Holt's shoes. What with the apparent first class food debacle compounded by the OHL issues this weekend I bet the air will be a bit blue Monday morning.
 

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>Glad I'm not in Elaine Holt's shoes.<

Probably has her Blackberry off for the BH weekend and is oblivious :)
 

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EC website now saying the 21:10 Lincoln-Leeds (due 22:45) is cancelled
Agreed the 21.10 to Leeds is showing cancelled but there is also the 21.03 to Leeds off the 19.15 to Lincoln extended to Leeds. The question is whether the 21.03 will retrace it's steps via Newark; if so I'd be really jarred off as a passenger KGX to Leeds... . I'm going to follow this on line as am intrigued.
 

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Elaine Holt can make a start on Tuesday morning by going into the Control office and reading the riot act!
 

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XC are often dangerously overcrowded on many sections of their network and I agree EC are an embarrassment and have no excuse really for not running some level of service north of Doncaster. My concern is that XC are setting a precedent here and what happens if this becomes the rule that in future XC won't take advance passengers of other companies during disruption. Then what happens if the other companies follow suit. XC are very good at leading the way on screwing passengers and also what if other companies had adopted this policy when those XC driver shortages led to massive overcrowding on their services?

Do XC (or other TOCs) have any choice about not taking advance passengers? I presume that there must be a written agreement between TOCs about accepting each others passengers during situations like this. If so, does it make any distinction between open tickets and advance tickets in terms of cross-acceptance?
 
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