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On this page it states holders of 16-25 railcards can get 50% off instead of 33% by booking online.

But I can't find any fares on the TPE website with the 50% applied; has it expired or is it only available on certain ticket types?

I've only got access to the mobile site so maybe I'm just missing something.
 
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You need to use the link near the bottom of the page.
 

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Okay, cheers for the replies.

Does the discount apply to SVR/SOR tickets on FTPE or is it only for Advance fares?

Edit: marcouk2, the link you've posted works :) previously I'd keep getting a 404 when trying to navigate away from their mobile site.
 
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There are also seemingly 100 bonus points for registering your Nectar card/on first purchase.
 

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So if I'm understanding this correctly, FTPE get a share of the revenue from all tickets sold through their website, even if they don't involve travel on FTPE at all? That explains the Nectar incentive I guess
 

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Yes, they will get a proportion of the sales value as commission.
 

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So if I'm understanding this correctly, FTPE get a share of the revenue from all tickets sold through their website, even if they don't involve travel on FTPE at all? That explains the Nectar incentive I guess

Yes, same for all ticket sellers. 5% I think.
 

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Commission rates for operators are in the Ticketing and Settlement Agreement and can be found as follows:

http://www.atoc.org/about-atoc/rail-settlement-plan/governance/

Select main agreement (volume 1)

Go to pages 165-167

Part V deals with commissions between operators (but not third party agents such as thetrainline)

6.2.1 entitlement to commission
6.2.2 national standard rates of commission

the rate between operators for normal internet sales is 5% (note it is zero for season tickets)

however operators can negotiate different rates between each other if they want to (although i do not remember any cases of this when i was involved).
 

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Commission rates for operators are in the Ticketing and Settlement Agreement and can be found as follows:

http://www.atoc.org/about-atoc/rail-settlement-plan/governance/

Select main agreement (volume 1)

Go to pages 165-167

Part V deals with commissions between operators (but not third party agents such as thetrainline)

6.2.1 entitlement to commission
6.2.2 national standard rates of commission

the rate between operators for normal internet sales is 5% (note it is zero for season tickets)

however operators can negotiate different rates between each other if they want to (although i do not remember any cases of this when i was involved).

Thanks for the link, I've had a read of it.

Could it be argued that websites such as The Trainline are actually hurting the rail industry; as they are taking commission away from the TOCs that might otherwise reinvest it?
 

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Thanks for the link, I've had a read of it.

Could it be argued that websites such as The Trainline are actually hurting the rail industry; as they are taking commission away from the TOCs that might otherwise reinvest it?

TOCs only reinvest if they have to. Bunce money would go to executive bonuses and dividends, preferably in that order if the execs can swing it.
 

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The trainline' continued existence depends on customers being stupid.
 

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The trainline's continued existence depends on customers being stupid.

Exactly. However, a lot of customers are just naïve because they're new to the whole online ticketing scene. I have a friend who bought tickets with the trainline this week. My heart sank a little when I found out but she now knows to use Virgin or TPE in future.

I wonder if TTL employees are told to use TTL for their tickets?
 
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