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geof

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hello, hope some one can give advice, not being a very frequent rail user i need some info. i need to get to st thomas hospital london, and reckon the easiest way is by rail. i see waterloo is near so is it posible to get to waterloo from the east midlands, i could drive to a conveinient town and jump on a train. dont really want to drive into and try to park in central london. geof.
 
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I would guess your best bet would be to travel into Kings Cross and then use the underground to get to where your going in London as the rail lines in your area don't go to Waterloo station but instead Kings Cross.

Where is your nearest station and what day of the week and what time will you be travelling and if you know what date?
 

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thanks for a quick response. not got the confirmation for the appointment yet so dont know date and time. i just thought waterloo because its the closest and havent ever had the pleasure of using the underground at all. being some one who always goes by car ( but not into central london ) im a bit stymed when it comes to buses and trains. thought i could drive to a convienient town and hop on a train. geof.
 

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Well if you can drive to Newark North Gate station there are regular services to and from Kings Cross then its just a tube journey to Waterloo. How much in advance are you going to know? The longer the lead time the cheaper the tickets will be.
 

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thanks for reply. i live near peterborough. geof

If you really don't want to use the tube then this is what you do:

Peterborough - Kings Cross (East Coast or First Capital Connect)
Short Walk to St Pancras
St Pancras to London Bridge (First Capital Connect)
London Bridge to Waterloo East (Southeastern)
 

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An Off Peak Day Travelcard from Peterborough to London Zones 1-6 is £29.50. This is valid on all tubes, trains, buses etc in London.

This is valid any time at weekends. If travelling on a weekday the first train you can use is at 10:05, and coming back you can get the 19:03 from King's Cross or any later train.

If you want to travel at peak times, such as leaving Peterborough on the 0726, 0816 or 0915 services, and travel back on a train such as the 1740, 1810, 1840 services, these are all fast FCC trains taking approx 1 hour, and you can buy an Anytime Travelcard for £50.00 that lets you travel on any FCC train at any time (but not valid on the faster EC trains) and also on all buses/trains/tubes in London.

FCC trains take approx 1 hour for the fast trains and up to 1 hour 30 for the slow ones (all the times given above are fast). EC trains take 45-55 minutes.

If you need to go at peak times and £50 is too much, you could drive to somewhere like Potters Bar, where the ticket price is only £10.90 to London, you could then use Oyster Pay As You Go to get to Waterloo. Journey time from Potters Bar to King's Cross is from 15 minutes (fast trains) to 35 minutes (slow trains).
 

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If you need to go at peak times and £50 is too much, you could drive to somewhere like Potters Bar, where the ticket price is only £10.90 to London, you could then use Oyster Pay As You Go to get to Waterloo. Journey time from Potters Bar to King's Cross is from 15 minutes (fast trains) to 35 minutes (slow trains).

If you're driving to Potters Bar then go just the other side of the M25 to Hadley Wood which is the first oysterised station on that line. Journey about 30 minutes.
 

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Not sure about parking at Hadley Wood though. I know railtours call at Potters Bar as it's meant to be good for parking, and there is a large car park visible on aerial maps. For Hadley Wood, the trains are less frequent with gaps of up to 35 mins, journey opportunities vary from 26 mins to 37 mins. Change at Finsbury Park for King's Cross. It's certainly cheaper though!
 

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There's also the 59 bus, which goes from King's Cross to Waterloo Bridge, a short walk along the river path from St Thomas's, if you don't fancy the Tube. It's pretty quick, considering.

If you do get the Tube, the easiest way is to get the Victoria Line to Oxford Circus, where it's an easy (30 second) change to the Bakerloo Line. At Waterloo, take the South Bank exit (not the station exit), and then you can just walk along York Road to the hospital.

A final option is to get the Circle Line all the way round to Westminster, which is the same distance from St Thomas's main entrance as Waterloo. It'll take longer, but is easier if you're not feeling too well (and there should be lifts at both stations).

Driving at peak times, well... The A1 is a nightmare at Buckden, Black Cat and Sandy (and to a lesser extent, Biggleswade) in the morning. I'd avoid, personally.
 

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thanks everyone who helped. i now have the time we have to be there, 10am friday 10th september. ( is there a more awkward time and day to travel to the centre of london and back ). train from peterbourgh too kings cross and then the underground looks the easiest. geof.
 

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I generally use the 59 bus from Kings Cross to Waterloo - the journey normally takes about 20 minutes at peak times (but allow 30 minutes for traffic delays). It costs £1.20 using a PAYG oyster card. (the buses do not accept cash within zone 1 so if yo don't have an oyster card you will need to get a ticket from the machines available at certain bus stops before travel.)
If you want to use the underground & you are on a FCC train that stops at Finsbury park there is a much quicker & shorter walk to the Victoria line (though you have to go down a spiral staircase) than the walk at Kings Cross. (though in the evening you probably won't get a seat getting on at Finsbury park!)


If you are driving, the car park at Potters Bar is good & within 10 minutes from the M25. Though be aware that the A1(M) can be very slow southbound in the monrings (though less so on a Friday) - the 25 mile Hertfordshire section from Junction 10 to the M25 can often take an hour in the mornings.
I know several people who drive into North London & park at somewhere like Cockfosters or High Barnet where they can use the underground. Stanmore has the Jubilee line station which would take you through to Waterloo or Westminster
An alternative would be to park somewhere on the Thameslink route & then you can get a train through to Blackfriars & walk along the river (or walk to Temple & get the circle line to Westminster)
 
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