Fridays 18.57 departure from Euston

[Johnny Lewis]

The Virgin Trains website shows this train running to Liverpool Lime Street, but I was under the impression that the train ran to Manchester Piccadilly. So is their timetable wrong, or has it now been diverted to Liverpool now? From a timetable point of view, it makes more sense as, running to Manchester, it was overtaken by the 19.00 departure, whereas it apparently does beat the 19.07 departure to Liverpool.

 

[TheBigD]

Was introduce due to abysmal overcrowding of the 1900 manchester service, which was the first off peak Manchester service. Online planners show it as still going to Manchester.

The Evening Standard did a peice about the overcrowding a while back...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...-in-pens-like-cattle-say-euston-passengers.do

1st class is declassified as well and it runs as standard accommodation only.

 

[All Line Rover]

It's a mistake - according to journey planners the train still runs to Manchester. To have 4 services within 1 hour seems a bit much for Liverpool anyway!

Virgin have made a number of mistakes in their online timetables. (I don't know about the printed ones yet - I will pick them up from Euston this Saturday coming.)

For example, the 21:07 service to Liverpool is shown as running to Crewe only, and that customers must take a "connecting" service to Liverpool. The "connections" also have a "y" next to them, even though the "Notes" page doesn't even mention a "y"! (For the record, the train does run to Liverpool direct.)

On the E/F timetable, the 06:16 service from Preston to Birmingham has Birmingham highlighted (to say that alighting customers will be served breakfast), even though the service terminates at Birmingham! Wolverhampton is also highlighted, even though meals (or sandwiches) are never served to customers travelling between Wolverhampton and Birmingham.