Frequently Requested Diagrams Discussion & Updates

[FQ]

It looks good apart from GC diagram 1 being a 180.

 

[Prudhoe]

see item 216 on page 15 of this thread for SX hst diagrams

 

[Esker-pades]

The yahoo group 'UKModernEMU' has the full diagrams for the 377/6s.

Is it as simple as just dropping an "I'd like to look at the diagrams" request? I've tried that and not got any luck so far .

 

[swt_passenger]

Is it as simple as just dropping an "I'd like to look at the diagrams" request? I've tried that and not got any luck so far .

I posted that in March last year, when there were detailed 377-6 diagrams in the 'Dec 13' section of the group's files section.

That was no guarantee that the same info would be made available every year, they rely on insider information which may or may not be made available subsequently, or if the info is no longer news worthy, as in this case.

 

[hassaanhc]

Evening Am I right in saying that the following services via Amersham are booked for Class 168 units?
2C79 1818 Aylesbury Vale Parkway to London Marylebone
2B67 1918 London Marylebone to Aylesbury

Are there any other services calling inside the TfL zones that use Class 168s?

Thanks in advance

 

[Triumph]

Evening Am I right in saying that the following services via Amersham are booked for Class 168 units?
2C79 1818 Aylesbury Vale Parkway to London Marylebone
2B67 1918 London Marylebone to Aylesbury

Are there any other services calling inside the TfL zones that use Class 168s?

Thanks in advance

168's calling in the TFL area:

SX (From AYS)
2H02 0535 1x3
2H31 0931 1x3
2H67 1628 1x4
2H79 1818 1x3
2C91 2105 1x4 (FO)
2C93 2135 1x3 (2130 ex AVP)

SX (From MYB)
2A13 0820 1x3
2B30 1142 1x4
2B35 1242 1x3
2B67 1918 1x4
2V71 1955 1x3
2A90 2330 1x4 (2345 FO)

SO (From AYS)
2C13 0705 1x4

SO (From MYB)
2A78 2109 1x4
2V88 2312 1x3 165 + 1x3 168
2A89 2318 1x4/1x3
2B91 2357 1x4

Sun (From AYS)
2C15 0735 1x4
2C25 0835 1x3 (0830 ex AVP)
2H38 1055 1x3

Sun (From MYB)
2V83 2227 1x3

 

[IanXC]

Does anyone know the diagrams for TPE 185s going to Scotland? I understand there are still some occurances each week?

 

[hassaanhc]

168's calling in the TFL area:

SX (From AYS)
2H02 0535 1x3
2H31 0931 1x3
2H67 1628 1x4
2H79 1818 1x3
2C91 2105 1x4 (FO)
2C93 2135 1x3 (2130 ex AVP)

SX (From MYB)
2A13 0820 1x3
2B30 1142 1x4
2B35 1242 1x3
2B67 1918 1x4
2V71 1955 1x3
2A90 2330 1x4 (2345 FO)

SO (From AYS)
2C13 0705 1x4

SO (From MYB)
2A78 2109 1x4
2V88 2312 1x3 165 + 1x3 168
2A89 2318 1x4/1x3
2B91 2357 1x4

Sun (From AYS)
2C15 0735 1x4
2C25 0835 1x3 (0830 ex AVP)
2H38 1055 1x3

Sun (From MYB)
2V83 2227 1x3

Thanks I see there are convenient midday timings, must get myself down there later this week!

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Good morning,

I was looking on the very useful thread that shows which services are loco hauled and I have a query about the loco hauled silver Chiltern trains services from London to Brum, weekdays.

Looking at the thread, it appears that both the 1015 & 1045 from Marylebone are loco hauled, is that correct? I was not sure how the diagram numbers work, are these altenated weekly perhaps? I have previously always used the 1015 going up and 1555 I think coming back.

1R22 MYB 1015 - BMO 1159 (4)
1G25 MYB 1045 - BSW 1248 (5)

Tks.

 

[55013]

Yes, the 10.45 is hauled.
If I may rearrange the list in the other thread, it shows five locos booked to work.
Thus:

Loco 1:
1H16 PRR 0744 - MYB 0825
1R15 MYB 0845 - BMO 1044
1H43 BMO 1055 - MYB 1234
1R37 MYB 1315 - BMO 1459
1H69 BMO 1555 - MYB 1742
1K62 MYB 1815 - KID 2048

Loco 2:
1H18 KID 0609 - MYB 0829
1K65 MYB 1847 - KID 2126

Loco 3:
1H20 BAN 0744 - MYB 0900
1U61 MYB 1750 - BAN 1907

Loco 4:
1H21 SBJ 0638 - MYB 0903
1R22 MYB 1015 - BMO 1159
1H53 BMO 1255 - MYB 1434
1R55 MYB 1647 - BMO 1840

Loco 5:
1H26 KID 0705 - MYB 0936
1G25 MYB 1045 - BSW 1248
1H55 BSW 1312 - MYB 1508
1K57 MYB 1715 - KID 1931

The actual loco on a diagram varies day to day (sometimes it can change during the day).
Hope that's useful.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Yes, the 10.45 is hauled.
If I may rearrange the list in the other thread, it shows five locos booked to work.
Thus:

Loco 1:
1H16 PRR 0744 - MYB 0825
1R15 MYB 0845 - BMO 1044
1H43 BMO 1055 - MYB 1234
1R37 MYB 1315 - BMO 1459
1H69 BMO 1555 - MYB 1742
1K62 MYB 1815 - KID 2048

Loco 2:
1H18 KID 0609 - MYB 0829
1K65 MYB 1847 - KID 2126

Loco 3:
1H20 BAN 0744 - MYB 0900
1U61 MYB 1750 - BAN 1907

Loco 4:
1H21 SBJ 0638 - MYB 0903
1R22 MYB 1015 - BMO 1159
1H53 BMO 1255 - MYB 1434
1R55 MYB 1647 - BMO 1840

Loco 5:
1H26 KID 0705 - MYB 0936
1G25 MYB 1045 - BSW 1248
1H55 BSW 1312 - MYB 1508
1K57 MYB 1715 - KID 1931

The actual loco on a diagram varies day to day (sometimes it can change during the day).
Hope that's useful.

Yes, thank you for that. Interesting that both the 1015 & 1045 are loco hauled. Good as it gives more choice. Now just wait to see if they bring back the 50p Evening Standard offer again soon?

 

[Class 92]

What are the diagrams for the Northern class 319s? I understand they were posted in the thread but I'm not sure what page?

 

[SprinterMan]

The Frequently Requested Diagrams Thread has now been updated for Autumn Sorry I haven't done much to it recently, I have been moving house.

Adam

 

[MK Tom]

What's happened to the LM 321 diagrams? I assume they're staying the same when it goes to 319s.

 

[SprinterMan]

What's happened to the LM 321 diagrams? I assume they're staying the same when it goes to 319s.

I removed them because I was not sure what was going on with them.

London Midland Class 150 to Hereford

Monday to Friday

1M57 HFD 0734 - BHM 0907
1M65 HFD 1240 - BHM 1411
1M94 HFD 1640 - BHM 1811

1V25 BHM 1049 - HFD 1219
1V29 BHM 1449 - HFD 1619
1V25 BHM 1819 - WOS 1910

Saturday

No service

Sunday

No service

HFD - Hereford
BHM - Birmingham New Street
WOS - Worcester Shrub Hill


London Midland Class 321 to London Euston

Monday to Friday

2K50 MKC 0554 - EUS 0649
2K53 MKC 0619 - EUS 0720
2J06 WFJ 0755 - EUS 0818
2T52 TRI 0804 - EUS 0842
2T10 TRI 0926 - EUS 1008
2T12 TRI 0956 - EUS 1038
2T18 TRI 1126 - EUS 1208
2T26 TRI 1326 - EUS 1408
2T34 TRI 1526 - EUS 1608
2K04 MKC 1747 - EUS 1846
2T12 TRI 1929 - EUS 2013
2T20 TRI 2126 - EUS 2209

2T11 EUS 0704 - TRI 0748
2T23 EUS 0834 - TRI 0917
2T27 EUS 0905 - TRI 0949
2T91 EUS 1034 - TRI 1117
2T53 EUS 1234 - TRI 1317
2T69 EUS 1434 - TRI 1517
2K83 EUS 1624 - MKC 1730
2T87 EUS 1654 - TRI 1735
2T07 EUS 1840 - TRI 1922
2K09 EUS 1852 - MKC 1951
2T23 EUS 2034 - TRI 2117
2N31 EUS 2224 - NMP 2342

Saturday

No service

Sunday

No service

MKC - Milton Keynes Central
EUS - London Euston
WFJ - Watford Junction
TRI - Tring
NMP - Northampton
BLY - Bletchley

Here they are

Adam

 

[MK Tom]

Thanks very much! The reason I ask is I'm looking to try to get one of the 319s on Monday. I'll let you know if I do and if they're on the same diagrams.

 

[Prudhoe]

As mentioned, diagram 1 is 180 (yesterday 180101).However on arrival at KX, 1A66 forms 1D95 to Bradford, whilst 1A67 ex Bradford forms 1N96 to Sunderland. then 5N96 ecs to Heaton.

This enables one of the three 180s on the Bradford Interchange-KX route to work back to Heaton each day.

 

[Starmill]

Does anyone know the diagrams for TPE 185s going to Scotland? I understand there are still some occurances each week?

Another word for the (as I understand it) Friday and Sunday diagrams of 185s to Scotland being very useful to include?

 

[causton]

Thanks very much! The reason I ask is I'm looking to try to get one of the 319s on Monday. I'll let you know if I do and if they're on the same diagrams.

Today the 321s had their last turn on the mainline, which was:

0554 MKC - EUS
0705 EUS - TRI
0804 TRI - EUS
1654 EUS-TRI
1840 EUS-TRI
1930 TRI-EUS
2034 EUS-TRI
2126 TRI-EUS
2224 EUS-NMP

I do not know if this will be what the 319s work on Monday for certain but it will make sense.

Of course there will be a third 319 on the Abbey line, this will be as of 1607 on the Sunday afternoon!

 

[CyrusWuff]

Just as a heads up, it seems the Chiltern diagrams have been extended to Saturday 24th October at some point, taking them up to the public opening of the line to Oxford Parkway.

One thing that is known about the new timetable is that there will be one train each way Monday to Friday (0724 Up and 1818 Down in the last draft issue) which will be formed of a loco-hauled set.

I believe it should also see at least one 168/3 in service as well. In keeping with the existing 168 numbering scheme(ish), these appear to be being numbered 168321 - 168329. (The existing 168 fleet is numbered 168001 - 168005, 168106 - 168113 and 168214 - 168219.)

 

[FQ]

I believe it should also see at least one 168/3 in service as well. In keeping with the existing 168 numbering scheme(ish), these appear to be being numbered 168321 - 168329. (The existing 168 fleet is numbered 168001 - 168005, 168106 - 168113 and 168214 - 168219.)

Why no 168320?

 

[berneyarms]

Why no 168320?

Because you generally start a number sequence with xx1 rather than xx0.

 

[FQ]

Ah, ok. That makes sense.

 

[Minilad]

168329 has been shuttling up and down between Banbury and Birmingham all last week. Passed it a few times on what looked like crew training. The interior is fully Chilternised

 

[lightbulb]

Hello all,

I'm new to this part of the forum (I'm normally to be found on the Fares and Ticketing section), so I'm wondering if there are diagrams for class 319/2s and 319/4s on Thameslink?

 

[krus_aragon]

Because you generally start a number sequence with xx1 rather than xx0.

You try telling that to computer programmers!

(Computers typically use zero-based counting.)

 

[greatkingrat]

You try telling that to computer programmers!

(Computers typically use zero-based counting.)

Good job they are not in charge! Otherwise the unit would be called 101001000110000001. You'd never be able to write it down in a notebook in time.

 

[MK Tom]

LM 319 diagrams on the WCML from today are the 07:14 BLY-EUS and the 17:05 EUS-MKC. Can you add this to the thread? You're welcome to use one of my images here: https://mkttransportphoto.smugmug.com/2015/October-2015/London-Midland-319s-first-day/i-Mj39dkV (units are all in Southern or white currently).

 

[SprinterMan]

LM 319 diagrams on the WCML from today are the 07:14 BLY-EUS and the 17:05 EUS-MKC. Can you add this to the thread? You're welcome to use one of my images here: https://mkttransportphoto.smugmug.com/2015/October-2015/London-Midland-319s-first-day/i-Mj39dkV (units are all in Southern or white currently).

Done, as requested Also, a general update has been done on the thread (see 442s, damn things :P ) and a re-ordering has taken place since Virgin and First have been messing around with their brands.

Adam

 

[Prudhoe]

Attached are current Virgin Voyager diagrams.
NOW REPLACED BY ITEM 277