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I'm glad I've done the line to Penzance, so don't have to do it ever again!

The grammer seats in the GW HSTs are the best, much better than those low things in the EMT sets ;)

I've got a little HST jaunt planned in April to get my final (GW) highspeed route cleared.

Sounds like you've had few good trips.

Was it a LD or a HD set?
 
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Glad to see you got down to Penzance, I've got a real soft spot for that station. I remember looking over the wall above the station in the 70s and seeing 125s, Peaks, 47s, 50s etc when I was little.
Shame about the uncomfortable seats though as it's a long time to be sitting in them on a journey like that. Enjoyed the read anyway.
 

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Interesting read. I don't find the seats too bad to be honest. I think the worst Mk3 HST seats are the East Midland ones.

Living down in Devon I get bored of the banks though but I think thats cos it's slow and normally buy the time I get to that part I just want to be home! Plymouth to Exeter is an hour for 52 miles and is tedious! Made all the worse by having to stop at Totnes! Skip that stop and its slightly more bearable. I prefer the journey into Cornwall to be honest.
 

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I was very comfortable on 158713 from Thurso to Inverness last year, although I fell asleep on the journey north the night before (for about 15 minutes) and woke up with a sore back...
 

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Interesting read. I don't find the seats too bad to be honest. I think the worst Mk3 HST seats are the East Midland ones.

Living down in Devon I get bored of the banks though but I think thats cos it's slow and normally buy the time I get to that part I just want to be home! Plymouth to Exeter is an hour for 52 miles and is tedious! Made all the worse by having to stop at Totnes! Skip that stop and its slightly more bearable. I prefer the journey into Cornwall to be honest.

It was always good fun storming the banks behind a 47 on a sunny day, and then eyeing the row of withdrawn 50s parked up near Laira.
I remember going past Tavistock Junction back then once and a pair of 37s (671 and 672 maybe?) had been diverted into a siding by mistake. They hit a Lowmac wagon and pushed it off the siding and into the ballast. It was quite impressive.
This was the result... (photo from Cornwall railway society site)
 

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It was always good fun storming the banks behind a 47 on a sunny day, and then eyeing the row of withdrawn 50s parked up near Laira.
I remember going past Tavistock Junction back then once and a pair of 37s (671 and 672 maybe?) had been diverted into a siding by mistake. They hit a Lowmac wagon and pushed it off the siding and into the ballast. It was quite impressive.
This was the result... (photo from Cornwall railway society site)

Ouch for the 37!

I remember once (probably about 27 years ago) when coming home once with my Dad and his mate and son passing Tavvy Junction behind a 47. We were late running (can't remember how late) but the driver was hammering it! I remember my dad's mate saying "He's giving it some welly!" :lol: It was certainly the quickest I'd ever been down Hemerdon and round the corner towards Laira. They don't do that anymore!
 

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Ouch for the 37!

I remember once (probably about 27 years ago) when coming home once with my Dad and his mate and son passing Tavvy Junction behind a 47. We were late running (can't remember how late) but the driver was hammering it! I remember my dad's mate saying "He's giving it some welly!" :lol: It was certainly the quickest I'd ever been down Hemerdon and round the corner towards Laira. They don't do that anymore!

Yes definitely. They used to hammer it along there, I don't know what the line speed was/is but trains in either direction used to be fast, a 47 on load 7 heading towards Exeter could get quite a speed up before hitting the bank, I think the 37s had the power on before piling straight off the end of the siding. Must have been quite a shock for the crew. Apparently the Lowmac was still there a couple of years ago and maybe it still is? Have a look out for it and let me know if it is, I'm quite curious. Ah memories (sorry fq for taking your thread over).
 

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I assume you are not a fan of the seats on a GWR HST then ;)

Sounded like a good run to the south western end of the country and back
What gave you that impression? ;)

It was indeed a good run.

I don't know what you're complaining about with those seats, I did Paddington to Penzance in one go on them in 2012. I think out of the 5.25 or whatever hours I was on it, I was sat down around 4.5 hours and I survived just fine!

That really was a long day for you all there mind, I'd have been on several coffees all day! As for McDonalds breakfast, you'd have been better off buying a bacon baguette on the HST!
They really are just awful.

Dad was on many coffees throughout the day, that's for sure. I can make do without ;). Never thought of a bacon baguette on the train... Food for thought (if you'll pardon the pun) for next time!

I'm glad I've done the line to Penzance, so don't have to do it ever again!

The grammer seats in the GW HSTs are the best, much better than those low things in the EMT sets ;)

I've got a little HST jaunt planned in April to get my final (GW) highspeed route cleared.

Sounds like you've had few good trips.

Was it a LD or a HD set?
I'll do it again, but probably on the sleeper (when the trams come onto them, and the god awful IEPs come onto the daytime stuff).

The grammar seats on the GW trams are only the best if you compare them to sitting on pieces of broken glass ;)

It was an HD unfortunately.

I bet Quinn was kicking himself it wasn't 43091/43196, as I'm sure he would have made a bee-line to coach B ;)
Certainly - that would have been a much nicer journey experience!

Glad to see you got down to Penzance, I've got a real soft spot for that station. I remember looking over the wall above the station in the 70s and seeing 125s, Peaks, 47s, 50s etc when I was little.
Shame about the uncomfortable seats though as it's a long time to be sitting in them on a journey like that. Enjoyed the read anyway.
Dad has similar memories - it sounds brilliant. Shame it still isn't like that... Glad you enjoyed the read :)

Interesting read. I don't find the seats too bad to be honest. I think the worst Mk3 HST seats are the East Midland ones.

Living down in Devon I get bored of the banks though but I think thats cos it's slow and normally buy the time I get to that part I just want to be home! Plymouth to Exeter is an hour for 52 miles and is tedious! Made all the worse by having to stop at Totnes! Skip that stop and its slightly more bearable. I prefer the journey into Cornwall to be honest.
Fair enough regarding the banks, but dissing the EMT tram seats... They're the best of the bunch, except GC! I think the order is GC, EMT, VTEC, XC, northern bench seated pacer, red hot coals, GWR seats ;)

I was very comfortable on 158713 from Thurso to Inverness last year, although I fell asleep on the journey north the night before (for about 15 minutes) and woke up with a sore back...
That sounds awful... ;)

It was always good fun storming the banks behind a 47 on a sunny day, and then eyeing the row of withdrawn 50s parked up near Laira.
I remember going past Tavistock Junction back then once and a pair of 37s (671 and 672 maybe?) had been diverted into a siding by mistake. They hit a Lowmac wagon and pushed it off the siding and into the ballast. It was quite impressive.
This was the result... (photo from Cornwall railway society site)
Ouch! The only time I'd done Liskeard to PZ before this trip was with 47811 and 47816. Nice!
 

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What gave you that impression? ;)

It was indeed a good run.


They really are just awful.

Dad was on many coffees throughout the day, that's for sure. I can make do without ;). Never thought of a bacon baguette on the train... Food for thought (if you'll pardon the pun) for next time!


I'll do it again, but probably on the sleeper (when the trams come onto them, and the god awful IEPs come onto the daytime stuff).

The grammar seats on the GW trams are only the best if you compare them to sitting on pieces of broken glass ;)

It was an HD unfortunately.


Certainly - that would have been a much nicer journey experience!


Dad has similar memories - it sounds brilliant. Shame it still isn't like that... Glad you enjoyed the read :)


Fair enough regarding the banks, but dissing the EMT tram seats... They're the best of the bunch, except GC! I think the order is GC, EMT, VTEC, XC, northern bench seated pacer, red hot coals, GWR seats ;)


That sounds awful... ;)


Ouch! The only time I'd done Liskeard to PZ before this trip was with 47811 and 47816. Nice!

£1 for Glasgow (unoffically mind!) To Thurso. Not too bad!

The 4 hours on 221142 was a real endurance fest at the start of that bash though! Even though it did involve red penning the G&SW. I literally walked up to the 170 at Queen Street, approached the grip and said 'I'm going to Wick...' and got waved onto the train before I'd even asked! (I had a ticket from Tweedbank)

Oh and I got a 158 Perth-Inverness too!
 

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Puddings and pasties, love it!

Seriously though, great reads so far. I'm looking forward to more to catch up on soon!
 

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Have you been on an IEP?
Nope.

£1 for Glasgow (unoffically mind!) To Thurso. Not too bad!

The 4 hours on 221142 was a real endurance fest at the start of that bash though! Even though it did involve red penning the G&SW. I literally walked up to the 170 at Queen Street, approached the grip and said 'I'm going to Wick...' and got waved onto the train before I'd even asked! (I had a ticket from Tweedbank)

Oh and I got a 158 Perth-Inverness too!
Hell. That sounds like an awful trip...

Puddings and pasties, love it!

Seriously though, great reads so far. I'm looking forward to more to catch up on soon!
Thanks!
Oh FQ, if you think the HST seats are bad you haven't endured NSB trains...
They sound awful if they're worse than the GWR seats!



Beware - it's photo heavy.



I’d rather ride on a proper milkfloat day 1

The time has come for my largest trip of the year so far. Mum had a retreat thing up on Holy Island just across the water from Berwick), so the plan was to head up to granny and granddad’s in Pickering on Friday the 17th of March by car, drive up to Holy Island on the Monday, spend a couple of days on the island, and then drive back to Pickering on the Wednesday. Mum would come back from Berwick by train on the Friday and then we’d all head home on the Sunday. This gave me the chance to do a 4-in-8 North East Rover while we were up there, my days being Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. How would I do Tuesday and Wednesday? Easy! On Tuesday, both start and end at Berwick. On Wednesday start at Berwick but end at Malton! There would be a problem with Tuesday and Wednesday, the latter more so. You can only cross from Lindisfarne to the mainland and vice versa at certain times of the day, depending on the tide. When the tide is out you can cross, but when the tide is in the route across to the mainland is underwater, so you can’t cross. The tide times would allow us to cross at 10:15 on the Tuesday, which would neatly put me onto the first ex Aberdeen at 11:12 through to York. On the Wednesday it was more of a problem. We’d be able to cross at 11:15, but the 12:12, the Southbound chieftain, doesn’t stop, meaning that it’d be a long wait until the 13:12 ex Aberdeen, which is the first service I’d be able to get. See my problem? Still, it’d be a good few days!

There’s one more thing though. On the Saturday after getting to Pickering, dad and I had decided to do a North East Round Robin, driving to York and getting the first northbound tram, at 07:37. That’s exactly what we did, and we got to bed at about 22:00 after a drive up to Pickering on the Friday. I didn’t sleep brilliantly, and was up 45 minutes before my alarm (a pretty good feat since it was meant to go off at 05:37), but I stayed n bed for a bit and read my book, getting up at about 05:25. It was then downstairs to go on the laptop for a bit, making use of Granny’s awful wifi, and dad had soon also come downstairs. We eventually left at about 06:03, and the drive to York was faster than we thought it’d be, just taking 42 minutes from opening the gate from the driveway at Granny’s to buying our car parking ticket in York station - £5.50 for the day. We then headed over to York station with about 50 minutes until our train north.

Our first port of call was the ticket office to get our rangers. We then wandered onto platform 3 as there was a Kings Cross service due in that I knew would be a tram as the coach indicator thing said that it had both a coach G and a coach J, instead of an H and a K. We gave mum a call to let her know what we’d got there OK, as requested, and we could soon see the tram arriving. Dad hadn’t had the leading powercar, 43317, since 1988, and the rear one, 43206, was also on his hit list, as it was only on 49 miles! I got photos of them, but the first ones (including the one of 317) came out poorly because it was slightly too dark and the ISO on the camera was rather low and the shutter speed rather high (I’d forgotten to change them). I had a play with it when the tram had come to a stop, getting some brighter ones of 43206 before it continued its journey to Kings Cross.
43206 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I then went to get a photo of a diesel dez in the old TPE livery (I quite like it and it’ll soon be gone) but it didn’t come out brilliantly, so I just needed to remember to get a better one later in the day. I then went back to the footbridge, and dad, and we headed to Costa. I was going to get a creamy cooler, but it wasn’t to be, as they were out of ice! Darn! I got a hot choc with cream and marshmallows instead (dad getting a coffee) and we took a seat on platform 9 to enjoy our brekky. Food wasn’t required, as I was still full from dinner last night, which was mountains and mountains of pizza (we got a 14 inch pizza each, 2 14 inch cheesy garlic breads to share and, because we spent over £15, a free 6 inch cheesy garlic bread).

The camera lens seems to put a white cast on things quite often, so my next few photos didn’t go to plan either, but I’d get a second try at Newcastle with 43312 and 43306, which were on the 07:10 from Leeds-Aberdeen.
Dad was very pleased with this pairing, as 43312 had only ever been had from Donny-York for him, and 43306 hadn’t been had since 1991, so was a winner for the century for him. Two on the hit list! Score! Both were duds for 100 for me, although I hadn’t had 312 since 2015, so I was glad to get it again.
185118 by fishquinn1, on Flickr

We got a decent enough bay of 2 on board and were soon on the move. A kettle was steaming up at the NRM ready for a tour to Whitby, and another was on the stock for the tour with 37706. Other than that not much was seen en route, and it was a relatively fun journey up to Newcastle, stopping at Durham as well today for some unknown reason (a lot of services were in the morning). Five FL 66s were in Tyne Yard, three identifiable, as was shovel 18. It was a clear run in, not stopping on the Tyne bridge, and we were soon leaving our seats, but not before seeing a 156 in the bay. The moment I saw the number I got my DMU platform 5 book out to confirm my suspicions. They were confirmed. I’d just cleared my Northern 156s!

We got off and, although photos were needed of 43312, I couldn’t be bothered heading down there as we were towards the end of the train. A few photos were got of 43306, followed by a couple of the Newcastle thunderbird, 67016.
43306 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
The thunderbird by fishquinn1, on Flickr
We then began to head back down the platform, trying to get a few decent photos of 156479, which was my last one. Due to the light, getting decent ones wasn’t possible so we gave up after a while and just changed platforms to wait for our tram, which would be departing from platform 4. We waited at the northern end of the station for it, and we could soon see the distinctive livery of 43238 coming into view. On the back was yet another powercar on dad’s hit list, 43313. This was a 100-mile-requirement for him, but it still wouldn’t be cleared after the 80.25-mile run to York, as he’d only ever had it from Stonehaven to Aberdeen, a journey of 16 miles. Both powercars were duds for 100 for me, but it was still good to get some more mileage on them.
43238 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43313 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
The journey was uneventful, again abnormally stopping at Durham, and we’d got to York an hour after leaving Newcastle, which isn’t bad with 3 stops and a TSR for Thirsk.
43313 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
We had about 20 minutes until our next service after arrival at York, so a few photos of 43313 were got while waiting for it to leave. We then headed down onto platform 5 as there was a Kings Cross GC due to arrive (we’d seen it as we passed Thirsk). 43468, the powercar that dad once needed to clear every passenger one (he now just needs 43013 to clear all powercars, including the scrapped ones), was soon arriving with 43480 on the back. I got one of 480 before running to the front of the set to get a few of 468, but the white cast from the camera lens didn’t help them look brilliant. I then saw a VTEC tram approaching from the south. This was at about 10:10, and it looked stationary, but there wasn’t one due, so I wondered why. I headed back down to dad and we went onto platform 9 together as our next service, the 10:19 Sunderland (a GC) was to arrive soon. We then saw that approaching, so I assumed that I’d mistaken the VTEC one for a GC one. It turns out that I hadn’t, and that the VTEC was the Kings Cross-Edinburgh tram tour, which took the York avoider. I’m not going crazy then. Dud for the year 43423 was leading the pairing, with 43465 taking up the back. 465 was the only Grand Central powercar that I hadn’t managed to get in 2016, so it was good to get it again. We got a bay of 2 on this, which had brilliant leg room as they all do, and we left York 3-late in the end, despite the set having arrived a couple of minutes early. The reason for the delay was the TPE 185 to Newcastle, which was running a couple of minutes late.

We were non stop through Thirsk on the fast lines due to engineering works, but I don’t think we were doing 125mph at any point in the journey, as it felt rather slow. Maybe it was pathed that way because of our non stop through Thirsk. Anyway, we’d soon completed the 30-mile journey and got to Northallerton, where I got a photo of 43465 before it headed off towards Sunderland.
Reflection by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Heading for Sunderland by fishquinn1, on Flickr
A Middlesborough diesel dez was following us, so I got a few photos, and I was snapping away until the arrival of our milkfloat north.
185101 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
The 185 duo by fishquinn1, on Flickr
It was booked to leave at 10:55 but was running 7-late, but we could eventually see the rubbish front end of a 91, and hear the rubbish sound they make. I was very glad though as this wasn’t any old milkfloat. It was one of my last 5 required ones! Even though I dislike the class, I was still glad to get on board winner 91108, taking me down to needing a mere 4 of them. Had it been a dud though, I think I’d have preferred to travel on a proper milkfloat. Dad would anyway, even if it were a winner :lol:. I’m sure Tech would approve that dad didn’t put the move from Northallerton to Newcastle in his moves book ;).
91108 by fishquinn1, on Flickr

The milkfloat ride was soon over and we got to Newcastle about 10 down. This only gave us about 10 minutes to get some lunch, but I noticed that our tram back was running 8-late, which would give us about 20 minutes. Neither of us were in the mood for a kebab so we instead went in hunt of a Sainsbury’s or Tesco for a sarnie. We walked for a little bit but found nothing, so instead just headed to Greggs opposite the station. I recognized the music playing in the Greggs, this being Echo beach by Martha and the muffins (one hell of a cracking song) and I decided to get lunch. Dad went for a couple of saussie rolls and a Belgian bun (they didn’t have the apple Danish that he usually goes for), me going for a couple of chicken bakes and a Bavarian slice (they didn’t have a custard slice, so this is the nearest thing to it). I needed to pay by card, but the machines were playing up so dad had to pay in the end, as he was armed with cash. Typical.

We headed over to the platforms again and waited for the 12:00 to Kings Cross, which was currently expected at 12:08. There was another rail enthusiast at the end of the platform, who was really soche and also liked HSTs. He was getting the southbound chieftain instead of this one, so we said bye when our tram arrived about quarter of an hour late at about 12:15. The other enthusiast noted that the rear powercar looked like it had vinyl on it, which I didn’t notice, and it did indeed. Dud for 100 43319 was leading, and wasn’t on either of our lists, but required for 100 43274 was on the back! Dad needed 274 for the century, it having evaded him since 1988, so it was a score for both of us. Dad noted how lopsided the nameplate was, which is pretty poor. You can see how lopsided it is in the photo.
43319 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43274 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43274 by fishquinn1, on Flickr

We got on board this very lightly loaded service and got a bay of 4, the guard announcing that the delay was due to an incredibly large passenger flow between Aberdeen and Edinburgh, as people were going down to Edinburgh to watch the rugby. It seems that almost everyone bailed at Edinburgh, and not to many people got on, so it gave a very pleasant journey. We got our books out and read for the journey, which passed without trouble, not losing or gaining any time on the way to York, where we had a +45 (it would have been a full hour without the delay.

Photos were got of 274 after arriving.
43274 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43274 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
We waited at the station for a bit, dad getting some photos of the architecture, and we were soon watching the 13:36 Edinburgh milkfloat arrive. I let some choice words come out of my mouth when I saw what was on it, as it was the milkfloat that I most wanted to get of my remaining 4, 91127. This was for 2 reasons. Number 1 was that I’d accidently put it in my books as had for haulage a few years book when I hadn’t, and the second because I’d cabbed it. We obviously weren’t going to flag a tram for it, so we decided that we’d look up its return working when on the chieftain. I know that 91s are pretty crap, but I still wanted to get it.
Heading north by fishquinn1, on Flickr
After that I decided to go and get my North East Rover for Tuesday-Friday. This was issued without hassle and £50 later I was armed with the ticket to cover me for the rest of my trip. We then headed back over to platform 9 to wait for the northbound chieftain, which was delayed by a couple of minutes due to the Penzance 221 getting in the way (the 221 was running 5-late). 43299 was leading the Highland Chieftain today and I ran to the back powercar to check what it was before we boarded. I was pleased to see 43307 on the back, not because it was on my needs list, neither were, but because it was most certainly on dad’s. It was the VTEC powercar that he’d had the longest time ago, having not had it since an unknown date in 1984! 33 freaking years ago! I last had it less than a year ago :lol:. We were soon in a decent bay of 2, and the book came out again for the fast 44.25 miles to Darlington.

Our service back was slightly delayed, so I had ample time to get a photo of 43299, which was on my needs list for that.
At Darlo' by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I stayed towards the end of the platform until it’d left, getting a couple of 307 as it headed off too, even though it wasn’t needed.
Darlington station by fishquinn1, on Flickr
We then wandered over to the other platform and had to wait for a few minutes for the second ex Aberdeen. I had my camera at the ready, although it wasn’t needed as both powercars didn’t need photos. Neither needed any mileage either, and both had already been had for the year, although not yet today. As I’d only had one Virgin set before today, this meant that it had to be the one that I’d had from Donny to York earlier in the month. I know that Nat will hate this. Why? Leading the set was one of his last 2 required VTEC powercars, 43277! 43309 was still with it. Dad really is doing incredibly well today because 277 was on his list, having been absent from the haulage book since 1988! This was also another service that wasn’t busy so we could spread ourselves out on a bay of 4 for the uneventful ride back to York.
Darlington by fishquinn1, on Flickr

The -1 back out was missed, which was annoying as it was a tram, but we thought it would so had planned to head to the NRM for some photographic opportunities. We got photos of 309 and watched it leave before exiting York station and heading over to the museum, heading straight for 87001.
York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Due to the dark corner that 87001 is in, and the annoying sodium lighting, we had to try loads of different things, and loads of different angles, and we’d eventually got loads of good ones having spent about 40 minutes next to the loco.
An 87 in 2017 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
An 87 in 2017 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
An 87 in 2017 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
An 87 in 2017 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
An 87 in 2017 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
We then didn’t have too long until our next tram so it was back to the station and over to platform 5, which the 15:53 Aberdeen was to depart from. It was arriving at 15:45, a couple of minutes early, and I smiled when I saw the leading powercar, 43367. I’d had it twice, as had dad, but it was still under 100 miles for both of us. God, it was still under 50, and it still wouldn’t be cleared for 100 by Darlo. We got on board, dad going to get a couple of photos of the powercar as it still had over 5 minutes until departure but I’d still need to get one at Darlington.
43367 by fishquinn1, on Flickr

We were soon on the move, once again in a bay of 4, and we were soon arriving at Darlo. I knew that I’d need to run up to the very front to get a photo of 43367 before running past 9 coaches and 2 powercars to get to the rear one in case I needed a photo of it. I was ready just before we arrived, with a normal ahead of me that tried to yank the door open before it’d been unlocked, delaying him slightly. I then got a photo of 367 before running back past dad and down to the rear powercar, seeing that it was 43295, another one on dad’s list as it was required for 100 for him (and was cleared in this run). It wasn’t needed for a photo for me, but I got a few anyway.
43367 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43295 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
We’d done RTT checks on 43277 to see what we could do, knowing that we needed to be on the 17:54 from York to Darlo. Going through to Newcastle on 367 wasn’t an option because it’d give us a -2 at York onto this. This meant a +30 at Darlington for a +20 at York. With half an hour at Darlo until our milkfloat (I know, but it was the only way) back to York we decided that it was time for an explore and coffee. We left the station, something I’ve never done here, and we had son left the rather grand station and took the sign towards the town centre. This looks like an awful part of Darlington, being run down and everything. This is probably because it was the old area for railway workers, who were paid little so the housing was poor and packed together. You could tell the sort of people around here weren’t exactly pleasant because of what the current owners of the houses have done. One of them had cemented broken glass to the top of their wall to stop people coming over, another few having used barbed wire for the same thing. Even though the station looks fantastic from the outside, the surrounding area certainly doesn’t, although I can’t base the whole of Darlington on what I saw.

The Costa had been shut when we’d left the station but we’d seen someone outside the station in what looked like Costa uniform having a smoke when we left, so we assumed that he’d be back at the Costa when we got back to the station. He was indeed so we headed over, me ready for my creamy cooler after failing in the morning. Dad was going to get a hot choc, but it seems that I was once again denied the creamy cooler as this one was also out of ice! Typical! What is it, global warming? ;)

I decided to get a cold drink from Smiths instead, just getting a hot choc for dad from Costa. We made use of the buy one get one half price drinks offer in Smiths to get two orange and carrot juice bursts for £3, also getting a couple of bars of choccy. Once we’d got them we only had about 10 minutes to kill for our milkfloat, so we headed down to the north end of the station and sat on some benches while waiting for dud 91131 to take us back to York, noticing a rather funky PIS message before boarding.
Near Costa Coffee by fishquinn1, on Flickr
It again wasn’t a busy service so we easily got a bay of 4 on board for the bounce back to York. It was an incredibly jerky ride, one of my worst on a milkfloat, I think I’d rather have had a proper milkfloat (you can see why this was the title for the trip ;)).

Dad had been mentioning before almost every train that he needed to go to the buffet and ask if they’d fill his thermal mug up with boiling water. He’d told me to remind him to head to the buffet before getting on board this milkfloat, so I did so but, like on every train that he remembered to head there on, he decided that he was comfy with his book and couldn’t be bothered. I’m not surprised... After a Northallerton stop we’d got to York and had only 20 minutes until our tram back up to Darlington, which I had unfortunately found out was a dud for the day by doing an RTT check for Kings Cross to see what the 16:00 Edinburgh formed from. It had formed from the first ex Aberdeen, which we’d had from Newcastle to York, so it was the return of 43274 and 43319 that took us back up to Darlington, again leaving from platform 5 at York. This service was slightly busier that the ones that we’d recently had, so we only managed to get a bay of 2, but it was good enough for our needs. What were our needs? Well, to put it simply, a seat ;).
Evening 185 by fishquinn1, on Flickr

We had soon got back to Darlington, where we arrived a couple of minutes early. It was only when we arrived that it sunk in how long our fester was. We’d be stuck at Darlington for 45 freaking minutes! The reason for not getting the service half an hour earlier was simple. By waiting 45 minutes we’d get on the return working of 91127, the winner that I’d seen heading north at York earlier in the day.

VTEC has put loads and loads of banners all over Darlo station advertising the ‘new, brilliant’ IEPs, saying stuff like
‘waiting for a train just got exciting’. Yep, really. The reason the waiting is the exciting bit is surely because you’ve
taken the joy of the train ride away, so the waiting is way more exciting than the actual journey ;). Most were absolute garbage, and it really shows how desperate VTEC are if they’re putting so much effort into advertising something as brilliant that they wouldn’t have got if they’d had the choice.

We spent 25 minutes by slowly wandering to the far end of the platform (the south end) and back, seeing the NMT on the avoiding line while down there. We took a while to wander back too, via the toilet, and got back to the benches at the northern end with about 10 minutes left. If dad worked this move out wrongly I’m not going to be a happy bunny (well, if he worked it out correctly then I also wouldn’t be – I’d simply be a happy person).

We saw the ex Edinburgh tram tour arrive on the avoiding lines while waiting, so I decided to send a text to Kite159, who I knew was on it, for a laugh.

We could soon see the DVT arriving, and I was relieved to see that it was the same one that was with 127 earlier on. I confirmed that it was indeed winner 91127 before boarding, not that it made any difference because we’d get it anyway. We got a bay of 4 on board and were soon on the racetrack again for the final move of our round robin. This was actually one of the last few services heading south on the ECML through Thirsk, as it was shut there after 20:00 (this was the 19:02 from Darlo).

Back at York we could see that the huge crowds that had piled in during the day; there must have been some sort of event on, there was that many people, including lots of hen parties (cluck, cluck). We didn’t wait to hear the dull sound of a milkfloat before heading over the footbridge and down to the car park, getting in ready for the drive home. Just like in the morning, we decided to head through the suburbs instead of heading to Acomb bar, and we were soon on the move, getting back to Pickering 45-50 minutes later after a terrific day. Bring on the North East Rover!
 

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Sounds like a rather HST filled day and one I must do before the VTEC ones finish up for good, despite having cleared the lot. GWR will be getting a good clear out in both April and August.

FYI the 0710 Leeds-Aberdeen is booked to call at Durham, with the first service in the morning not calling at Durham being the 0853 off York to Edinburgh.

If you want a fast run on an HST further north, the Sundays only 1147 Aberdeen-Kings Cross (1559 off Newcastle) is booked to do Newcastle-York in just 51 minutes non-stop.
 
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I approve of 91 haulage and not pushage, but I don't approve of not recording the move!

Agreed!

What's wrong with 91s! I know they're restricted now but they are the fastest loco we've ever built!

I fear for what you will be doing in a couple of years time! You'll be stuck because you refuse to get on anything! :lol:
 

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There's a chance young Quinn will become the forum's National Express (or Megabus) top man yet! Mind you, more people go from trains to planes than trains to buses/coaches...
 

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Just read the Pasties report - congrats on your last 333! The GWR seats in standard are awful, agreed.


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There's a chance young Quinn will become the forum's National Express (or Megabus) top man yet! Mind you, more people go from trains to planes than trains to buses/coaches...

I couldn’t imagine Fishquinn on NatEx/Megabus:D

Mind I'd have said that about myself 18 months ago...
 

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Sounds like a rather HST filled day and one I must do before the VTEC ones finish up for good, despite having cleared the lot. GWR will be getting a good clear out in both April and August.

FYI the 0710 Leeds-Aberdeen is booked to call at Durham, with the first service in the morning not calling at Durham being the 0853 off York to Edinburgh.

If you want a fast run on an HST further north, the Sundays only 1147 Aberdeen-Kings Cross (1559 off Newcastle) is booked to do Newcastle-York in just 51 minutes non-stop.
Thanks for letting me know about that :). Hopefully you'll be able to get on a good VTEC tram bash soon, too.

I approve of 91 haulage and not pushage, but I don't approve of not recording the move!
Fair enough. It just shows how much dad hates 91s!

Sounded like a good day :)
It was indeed.

Agreed!

What's wrong with 91s! I know they're restricted now but they are the fastest loco we've ever built!

I fear for what you will be doing in a couple of years time! You'll be stuck because you refuse to get on anything! :lol:
I don't like 91s because they both look and sound rubbish, not to mention the jerkiness.

Quinn will move to Scotland and spend his days travelling on the shorten HSTs between Glasgow & Stirling/Perth ;)
I wish... ;)

Or move to Cardiff and go to Penzance on the GWR ones when they kick in!:lol:
I wish... ;)

I think it'll be more TPE cats then!

There's a chance young Quinn will become the forum's National Express (or Megabus) top man yet! Mind you, more people go from trains to planes than trains to buses/coaches...
Not a hope in hell :lol:

Just read the Pasties report - congrats on your last 333! The GWR seats in standard are awful, agreed.


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Cheers! I'm glad someone agrees with me...

I couldn’t imagine Fishquinn on NatEx/Megabus:D

Mind I'd have said that about myself 18 months ago...
You know how much I hate buses of all types. I don't see that changing...



More than a few photos

This report isn’t really part of the trip, and is more of a photo heavy trip to Pickering station than anything else. Granddad had said that 26038 had been stabled at Pickering over the time the railway wasn’t operating so I decided that it was definitely worth the trip down to the station on the Sunday, the 18th of March to get some photography done of one of my favourite locos.

Mum and dad had headed into town earlier in the day, me heading out at about 13:00 and heading to the station. I had no idea where in the station it’d be but I knew the light level would make it hard to get decent photos if it was under the roof. Because of this I was very glad to see the excellent liveried 26 sat in the running round siding thing, which is completely outside. I looked at this for a moment before going into Costa and having my third attempt in two days to get a BCCC. This one was successful and actually cost me nothing, as I had enough points for it. I took my creamy cooler across the road and over to 26038 and started getting some photos from road level before going up onto a balcony thing and getting some more.
A creamy cooler and a sulzer by fishquinn1, on Flickr
26038, coaches and 08850 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
26038 at Pickering by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I then headed back to road level and spoke to dad, who was now back at Granny’s, on the phone. He and mum would need to come back out into Pickering about 40 minutes later so I decided to hang around and see if the entrance onto the station from the car park around the back was open. I wandered over, getting some photos as I went (including ones of parts of wagons and stuff) and was delighted to find the gate wide open. Onto the platform then!
26038 behind a stone wall by fishquinn1, on Flickr
The trees and wagons by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Rusty wagon part by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Turntable by fishquinn1, on Flickr

Just as I got under the station roof again, I suddenly heard the 26 make a lot of noise and start up. There were people at the loco for the whole time that I’d been there, about an hour at this point, so I was very glad that I could finally listen to the brilliant noise of an idling 26. I got a couple of time exposures of 08850, which was under the station roof, before heading back to the 26 and getting a quick video of it. I then went into the detail of the loco for many photos, giving dad a call after a while.
26038 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
26038 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Small sulzer by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Pickering by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Then, about 15 minutes after that, he called me back to say that they were just leaving and would be about 15 minutes. That 15 minutes was by far the best 15 minutes I was there.

The group of NYMR guys were now in the cab of the 26 and had just shut it down when one of them stuck their head out of the door and said something to me. I thought that it’d be asking me how I got onto the station, as the way I came on was the only open way, but it wasn’t. It was so, so much better. He simply asked if I wanted to come up into the cab! I obviously replied with a yes please, and he said that he’d be along to collect me in a moment. As the 26 was behind a fence from where I was, I would need to wander up to the platform and then along the track, and the really soche member of staff collected me a couple of minutes later. Then, as we walked back along the track to the loco, he asked me if I’d like to start it up again! Hellfire!

I climbed up into the cab and took a seat in the drivers seat, the other (all soche) guys offering to get a photo of me.
View from the cab of 26038 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
The cab of 26038 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Then it was time to get the engine back on. It was a brilliant experience, and was certainly a lot different to the only other loco I’ve started up before, 43046. I got a trip into the engine room too, and was incredibly glad that I’d come down for the afternoon! Incredibly soche guys!

I didn’t have long to wait for mum and dad to get here now, mum going off as she had something on, dad coming onto the station and getting some more photos with me.
26038 at Pickering by fishquinn1, on Flickr
26 behind the lamp by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Nameplate by fishquinn1, on Flickr
After getting several more of 26038, we moved onward to gronk 850.
08850 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
08850 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Windows by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Gronk through glass by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Then it was back away from the station, into the carpark. We got a few more on the way back to the road, and passed 26038 again from roadside on our way back to granny’s.
Lots of wheels by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Our last 2 photos were ones of store fronts. Why? The 26 was reflected in them!
Reflecte 26 by fishquinn1, on Flickr

We eventually got back to granny’s at about 16:30, three and a half hours after I headed out. I really enjoyed this little outing, getting a good look in the cab of a 26 and many decent photos too. A rather good way to kill a Sunday afternoon me thinks!




I’d rather ride on a proper milkfloat day 2

Having driven from Pickering to Lindisfarne on the Monday, I was all in position to start my North East on the Tuesday. It’s a brilliant island, albeit rather windy (well, I say rather. It’s incredibly windy). You can just make out trains on the ECML if you stand on the correct beach, so I managed to see a couple of milkfloats and 1S51, a Cross Country tram while there. Fast forward to Tuesday morning, and I was up and about rather early.

I didn’t sleep too well, waking up at about 04:30 and not being able to get back to sleep until about 05:45. I then woke up about an hour later and just decided to get on with the day, starting with the laptop. I took it to the bed and found it hard to concentrate on the screen even though I couldn’t get back to sleep. I managed to in the end and had soon finished up with it, and decided to go on a walk to get the nice sea breeze, the sea being little more than 100 steps away. The wind was absolutely freezing and quick, so I took shelter behind a boat house before giving up and walking back up to the house.

I got back on the laptop later on with the need of booking mum’s advance to York on Friday (she’d be getting the train back). There was a rather cheap one in 1st class on the 17:12, at £42.50, so I decided to get that as a treat for her and not say. All I did say was that her ticket would allow her access to the 1st class lounge at Berwick and that she’d need to sit in her reserved seat to make the ticket valid. I know that last bit isn’t true but I didn’t want her sitting in standard! Once that was done we decided to head out on another walk, not needing to cross to the mainland until 10:30 so I could be on the 11:12 to Kings Cross. It was still very windy and we’d soon got back to the house, where we didn’t have too long until it was time to set off in the car to get to Berwick-upon-Tweed. Dad and my brother took a while to get ready so we eventually headed off just over 10:40. I was on the 11:12 from Berwick, which would give us about 30 minutes to get there. There were some staggering cars on the causeway but we had soon joined the A1 and had reached Berwick just in time for my train. Berwick-upon-Tweed was a shack score, and is an unbarriered island platform station. When I first got down the stairs onto the station, I saw a flowerpot done up as a mini version of 43300, so I got a couple of photos of that before walking around the station to see where everything was and then down to the northern end to wait for my train, which had soon arrived.
Flowerpot by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Flowerpot by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I already knew what it’d be, as someone had asked for gen on one of the two powercars and it was on this service, so double duds for the year 43238 and 43313 were soon arriving to take me south. Coach C was completely unreserved so I got on board and found out that there was lots of bays of 4 free on this lightly loaded coach so I easily got a decent seat.

After departure I decided to locate the guard to check how much it’d be to upgrade to 1st class for the journey to York. The guard was very friendly and admitted that he didn’t know how to work out the upgrades for rovers but phoned a colleague to find out. He then managed to find out that it was £27, and I politely declined as it was too much. I instead headed back to the bay of 4 in coach C and watched as we raced towards Newcastle.

The ride between Berwick and Newcastle (well, more Alnmouth to Newcastle) is one that I’ve always found really boring, but it wasn’t too bad on this sunny morning and we’d soon reached Newcastle, where I looked over and saw one of my last 3 required milkfloats in the other platform. I looked at the time and, knowing that the Scotland bound one had left Newcastle less than 5 minutes previously, knew that it was the Newcastle terminator and would be heading back to Kings Cross at 12:25, 25 minutes after us. I stayed on the tram set and looked at options of getting it but doing so would lose me a return to Darlington on trams in favour of a return to Donny on milkfloats so I decided that it wasn’t worth it.

There was 2 colas grids in Tyne Yard as we passed, one of which was identifiable (but I got gen on the other later). It was a nice enough ride and I’d soon got to York, where it was off the tram. I got photos of 313 before beginning my hours fester, seeing that the Leeds via Harrogate was a pair of winner 150s.
Passing trains by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I had asked, but hadn’t got a reply, for gen on the return working from Poppleton so I decided that it wasn’t worth the risk in case it was a pacer and that I’d try for the next one at 15:11 after a return to Darlington. I wouldn’t need gen for this move, as I knew that the return from Poppleton would be this same pair of 150s, so if the 15:11 wasn’t a pacer then I could go to Poppleton. It was hard to flag the winners but I just headed over to the TVMs instead and picked mum’s tickets up before heading to Sainsbury’s local for lunch (it was 13:00 at this point).
A couple of carts by fishquinn1, on Flickr

I got there and was thrilled to see that the chicken triple was there. I became less thrilled when I saw that it was no longer in the meal deal, so I just looked around to other things and eventually emerged with a pack of chocolate digestives, two chicken pies and a pack of kettle chips. Back to the station then!

I got there before 91112, the winner I’d seen at Newcastle, and it had soon departed and an ex Kings Cross tram arrived on a terminator vice milkfloat. I got photos of 43305, which was on my needs list because of its incredibly high mileage (893) and then wandered up to the other powercar and getting photos of it, 43320.
Welcome indeed by fishquinn1, on Flickr
York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43305 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I then headed back down and went over to platform 9 as that was the platform that the Chieftain would be leaving from. I could soon see it approaching and was annoyed when I saw that it was another dud for the year pair. I started thinking about getting the 14:02 to Retford, as that was 320 and 305 (both required for the year), but decided against it for 2 reasons. Number 1 was that I thought, but wasn’t 100% certain that the service back would be a tram, number 2 being that I’d miss the 15:11 Leeds via Harrogate, which would mean that I certainly wouldn’t get those 150s. I instead got on 43312 and 43306 and got seats for the ride out to Darlington, which was soon over.

Despite the Chieftain having arrived on time, we departed two minutes late and absolutely staggered out of York, running on yellows until Skelton Bridge Junction. This caused me to look on RTT to see how long I’d have at Darlo onto my tram back now, but found out that I’d be fine as my connection was running 15 minutes late. This would also give me time to get a photo of 43312, which needed a better one. We’d eventually picked speed up and were soon racing through to Darlington. The approach was also very slow due to waiting for a freight train to go into the loop ahead of us, and we eventually got to Darlington 9 down at 14:30. The Kings Cross service was booked out at 14:29 but was now expected at 14:44, so I had ages to get a photo of 43312 and watch it leave before changing platforms and waiting for the southbound Northern Lights (the second ex Aberdeen).
43312 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43312 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I gave dad a call while waiting and it didn’t feel too long before double winner for the year but duds for 100 43317 and 43206, both ones that are on dad’s hit list, arrived. I got a bay of 4 on board in coach C and we were soon on the move once again, back to York having left Darlington 17 late.

I looked at RTT and it appeared that I’d miss the connection at York onto the 15:11 Leeds via Harrogate, annoyingly. I decided to take it as it comes though, and we did indeed get to York after the pair of 142s had left York heading towards Poppleton. Nothing lost then. We arrived on platform 3 at York and, needing a better photo of 317, I headed towards the front but found that he’d pulled right to the very front of the platform, past the point where passengers are allowed to go. Darn. I stayed down at that end of the platform to watch the tram set leave and then headed back towards the main part of the station to begin my fester.

I now had a couple of options. I knew that I needed to be on either the 15:54 from York to Berwick or the 16:54, both of which were trams (one to Aberdeen, one to Stirling). It was now about 15:20, so I had quite a while to wait. I could get down to Doncaster and back on milkfloats if I wanted to and get the Stirling tram or I could wait and see what was on the Aberdeen and, if it was any good, take it to Berwick but, if it wasn’t one that I wanted then take it to Newcastle for an hour bashing the metro. Seeing my 2015 North East Rover stalker arrive on my option through to Doncaster made the decision for me and I waited for the Aberdeen, seeing the tram that I would’ve got from Retford arrive while waiting. I’d made a bad decision with Darlington instead of Retford it seems because going for Retford would’ve got me 4 required powercars for the year instead of the 2 that Darlo got me, and would also have got two on my hit list – 305 on the way down and 311 on the way back, the latter having not been had since 2015. 311 was partnered with 300, which is another powercar that I wouldn’t mind getting. Oh well.

I got photos of the tram set in platform 6 while waiting for my own set, and I could soon see the on time service approaching.
43300 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Tram and milkfloat by fishquinn1, on Flickr
York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
The decision of where I was going was made when I saw the leading powercar on the Aberdeen, as it was annoying powercar 43309, which I’d already had twice this month. I figured that it’d still be the same powercar on the back, and I was right as Nat’s winner, 43277 was still there. I managed to get a bay of 2 to myself on this fairly busy service and we were soon on the move, seeing a couple of kettles at the NRM including Royal Scot, which would be heading to the NYMR later in the day.

A normal decided that they needed to leave the train at Darlington after the doors had been locked (having stopped there for a minute or so, of course) and called out of the vestibule window to reopen the doors so she could leave. The staff said it couldn’t be done (we started moving a moment later) but told her to change at Newcastle to go straight back. She wasn’t happy with this, but it’ll teach her to observe and listen more next time.

If I thought seeing two Colas grids in Tyne Yard was lucky on the way down, I was in for a real treat on the way back up as there was no less than 4 of the brilliant things there – 56078, 087, 105 and 113. I’d been checking RTT fairly frequently to see how the Stirling tram was doing, as it’d give us just over an hour to cross to Lindisfarne before the tide would block the causeway, and found that it was approaching York on time as we were approaching Newcastle. I left the train here because of that, getting a photo of 43309 before changing platforms to make use of the toilets. It was then out of the main station and down to the metro.
Newcastle by fishquinn1, on Flickr

When I got onto the Metro concourse I was greeted by the board saying that there were delays. A rather abrupt, rude woman was on the barriers letting people through whenever a train was due, so I wouldn’t really be able to get down to do bashing. Because of this I just decided to head back upstairs to the heavy rail stuff and stay there for a bit. I was only up there for about 5 minutes before deciding to take a look if the metro was any better and, much to my surprise, it was with the barriers now in normal function mode. I headed to a rather soche member of barrier staff, who happily let me through, and I was soon on the platforms. After looking at the timings in each direction I decided that Monument would be the best place to go, so I got onto double winner (not surprising – I’d only ever had one pair before) 4063 and 4039 for the ride down winner track to winner shack Monument, where I swapped platforms at the underground island platform and waited for the next one. I wasn’t waiting too long until one arrived, but it was already rather busy, certainly not helped by the hundreds of passengers hoping to get on here. Many people were left behind, myself included, but I could have got on as I was one of the first in the queue. I didn’t for two reasons. The first was that I didn’t want to be rammed in like a tin of sardines (or your average XC 221), the second that I wanted the commuters to get on, not some random rail enthusiast who’s only going one stop. I got on the next one though, double winner 4015 and 4025, and was soon back at Central station.

I decided against doing any further leaps and just did some spotting, getting quite a few numbers into my books. Then, when I’d been spotting only about 15 minutes, an announcement was done telling me to leave the station immediately or they’d call the police! It was a rather quiet announcement and wasn’t too easy to hear, so I wasn’t certain that it was about me, but I decided to leave just in case. I know that the Tyne and Wear metro is anti enthusiast but it seems stupid to ask someone to leave after only 15 minutes spotting! Stupid metro...

I was going to leave after 2 more minutes anyway so it didn’t make much difference and I headed over to platform 3, which is the platform that my service to Stirling would be leaving from. I saw a Newcastle terminator from Kings Cross with forum celebrity 91114 before my service arrived a couple of minutes late.
Newcastle by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I was rather ticked off at this point to see that it was yet another set that I’d had on the round robin, 43299 and 43307. I’ve had 5 tram sets today and all bar one have been had on the Round Robin! I went for coach C, just like on the way up, and managed to get a bay of 4 to myself for the pleasant journey up to Berwick. I let dad know that all was going well and that I was on the move. I sat back and relaxed while watching the scenery roll by, and I gave dad a call around Chathill to let him know that I wouldn’t be long. Then, after a great journey up to Berwick (yep, really), I was alighting there and getting a photo of 299 before heading towards the stairs and waiting to watch the set leave before heading off myself, getting into the car moments later.
Berwick-upon-Tweed by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Dad was in there solo this time, and we were soon driving back down the A1 and over to Lindisfarne, being cut off from the mainland again under 45 minutes after getting back.

A shame about the rather crazy Tyne and Wear metro ‘move on’ announcement, and the fact that I only got two new powercars for the year (and that I missed out on getting the pair of winner 150s), but it’s been a great day with some great tram mileage too. Bring on day 2!
 
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I'm absolutely amazed that they had the nerve to demand you to leave the station! I'd say complain because threatening you with the people isn't right at all but sadly "rules is rules" and they'll probably tell you to get lost.

Sadly the only way to get photos on the Metro is to keep moving and go above ground. The people on the Central gateline are a bit of a mixed bag as well. Back in the days of my child fares, a quid would buy me a day ticket for the whole region on all transport modes, but it'd not work the gates as it was issued on bus. One gateline woman actually got annoyed at me for interrupting her mobile phone call so as to let me through, saying to the person on the other end "aye it's stupid, got to let people through the gates". Shock, you have to do your job?

Sounds like a good day nonetheless.


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Some of the staff on the Metro are very jobsworth, I remember being shouted at last year at Heworth interchanging from the Metro to National Rail during the evening where a manual gate was in operation that "day tickets MUST go through the barriers, this way is only for season ticket holders" (even though there was no signs anywhere).

Funny thing if any fare dodgers were around, they could easily exit the station via the Newcastle bound national rail platform ;)

As for the Leeds - Harrogate - York services, beware as they can interwork with other services (mainly Lancasters), so I had an image of you heading to Poppleton to be bowled out when a pair of delightful 142s bounced in :P
 

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I wish... ;)

I think it'll be more TPE cats then!

But you won't be able to get there! Lol!!

And you're not alone on the bus thing! I avoid them where I can!

It would so seem you day was similar to mine! I too had 43238 with 43313. I then had 43312 and 43306. Later on I had 43309 and 43277.

The Metro incident sounded unnecessary. Was it over the tannoy? If you have a valid ticket surely you can be there as long as you aren't in the way! I'm glad I had no trouble when I was there!
 

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Earth calling Fishquinn, please leave the station.
Great read fq, very nice to get up close and personal to the 26. Liked the photos too, the one of the wagons in the weeds looked a bit like an old DMU bogie.
 

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I'm absolutely amazed that they had the nerve to demand you to leave the station! I'd say complain because threatening you with the people isn't right at all but sadly "rules is rules" and they'll probably tell you to get lost.

Sadly the only way to get photos on the Metro is to keep moving and go above ground. The people on the Central gateline are a bit of a mixed bag as well. Back in the days of my child fares, a quid would buy me a day ticket for the whole region on all transport modes, but it'd not work the gates as it was issued on bus. One gateline woman actually got annoyed at me for interrupting her mobile phone call so as to let me through, saying to the person on the other end "aye it's stupid, got to let people through the gates". Shock, you have to do your job?

Sounds like a good day nonetheless.


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I can't be bothered complaining because, as you say, they'll probably just say that the staff were doing what they were meant to do, or something like that. They do seem incredibly rude on the metro!

Some of the staff on the Metro are very jobsworth, I remember being shouted at last year at Heworth interchanging from the Metro to National Rail during the evening where a manual gate was in operation that "day tickets MUST go through the barriers, this way is only for season ticket holders" (even though there was no signs anywhere).

Funny thing if any fare dodgers were around, they could easily exit the station via the Newcastle bound national rail platform ;)

As for the Leeds - Harrogate - York services, beware as they can interwork with other services (mainly Lancasters), so I had an image of you heading to Poppleton to be bowled out when a pair of delightful 142s bounced in :P
They really do sound like lovely staff on the Metro :lol:

That's the reason that I didn't want to go to Poppleton without gen - I would've got a 144 back if I'd gone for it.

But you won't be able to get there! Lol!!

And you're not alone on the bus thing! I avoid them where I can!

It would so seem you day was similar to mine! I too had 43238 with 43313. I then had 43312 and 43306. Later on I had 43309 and 43277.

The Metro incident sounded unnecessary. Was it over the tannoy? If you have a valid ticket surely you can be there as long as you aren't in the way! I'm glad I had no trouble when I was there!
Pendo to Mancc would be acceptable ;)

Where were you on Tuesday then? I'll look forward to the report.

Yep, it was over the tannoy.
Earth calling Fishquinn, please leave the station.
Great read fq, very nice to get up close and personal to the 26. Liked the photos too, the one of the wagons in the weeds looked a bit like an old DMU bogie.
Thanks :)



Anyway, here's yesterday's report.

I’d rather ride on a proper milkfloat day 3

I slept a lot better than the night before, eventually waking up at about 08:00 to rain. Lovely. As I’d said in my first report, today was going to be problematic for what train to catch. We were able to cross to the mainland at 11:15, by which time the causeway wouldn’t be submerged in water, which means that I wouldn’t be able to get the 11:12 that I’d got the day before. There stupidly isn’t a 12:12, which would be the southbound chieftain (it doesn’t stop at Berwick) so that meant that the next service would be the 13:12, which is the second ex Aberdeen. In order to try and make up some of the lost time I’d arranged to get the 19:40 from York to Malton in the evening, but it was still rather annoying. I’d checked and I wouldn’t be able to get to Edinburgh and back, as I’d need to be on the 11:37 milkfloat (which would be cutting it too tight) so it was a case of leaving whenever dad wanted to and festering. Thrilling.

I completed the previous days trip report after getting up, which passed a lot of time, and I asked for gen on a couple of powercars on my hit list, namely 308 and 314. 308 may as well still be required as its only on 1.25 miles, so I really needed to get it again, and 314 is on 911 miles, so I really wanted to clear it. It was replied to less than an hour later by forum member LA50041 letting me know what 308 was doing. A huge thanks for this. I looked at what it was to do for the rest of the day and found out that it should be on the 16:00 Kings Cross-Aberdeen, which would be gettable through to Darlington before having to get the 19:40 back. Sounds like a plan!

After a fun enough morning it was time to head to the station. I needed to be dropped off slightly early for my train so dad and my brother had a chance to do something on their drive south, but I was fine with this. We set off at about 12:20 and had reached Berwick-upon-Tweed station with no problems by 12:45, giving me about half an hour until my train. I headed onto the platforms, noticing that the northbound PIS said that there was a non existent northbound non stop service. I headed into the 1st class lounge to kill the time, getting a hot choc, and it was a pleasant enough wait for my service south, the 13:12 Kings Cross. I kept on forgetting that it was afternoon and not about 09:00 in the morning, the sort of time I’d usually start my rover, and said morning to a member of platform staff at after 13:00 :lol:. I was soon at the end of the platform waiting for my service, knowing that it’d be a 50/50 that I’d get 43277 and 43309, so to expect that. Because of this, I wasn’t disappointed when I saw my service was...

Double requirement for the year 43296 and 43318, 296 also being under 100 miles (on 80.25), so I was very happy with this. I had got a rather good photo of 296 as it arrived and was soon on board in a decent bay of 4 for the southbound ride.
Arrival at Berwick by fishquinn1, on Flickr

It was a rather uneventful journey south to Newcastle, where I moved to a bay of 4 that was being vacated. I’d headed to the vestibule window for Morpeth curve, hoping to get a decent photo of the leading powercar, but failed as I was too far back so all I’d get would be coaches. No thanks!

We’d soon left Newcastle, passing 66710 on the Tyne bridge, and I headed to the vestibule window for departure so I could get some photos as we went around the corner onto the bridge. I got wedged out on departure from Newcastle, but there was still ample room and it was a nice enough journey.
Crossing the Tyne by fishquinn1, on Flickr

Dad gave me a call just after we’d left Darlington saying that they’d reached Newcastle about 5 minutes before and had just stopped at a service station. It shows how much quicker the train is considering that I left Berwick half an hour later and was in Darlington by the time they got to Newcastle! The bit between Darlington and York was as dull as usual, and we’d soon reached York, where 09017, 37057 and a couple of kettles were identifiable. My plan was now to simply wait for the 16:02 Kings Cross in just over an hour to go through to Retford as that would put me onto another tram back up to York in time for 308 to Darlington. This was a better idea than getting the Aberdeen tram to Darlington for a milkfloat back, and would save another hour fester at York.

I got photos after arriving, including running in order to get to the other end of the platform (in the rain) to get another of 296.
IMG_1236 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
It was then to the toilet before leaving the station to go and get some lunch. I headed to Sainsbury’s local again and, after taking a while to decide what to go for, I got a couple of scotch eggs and headed back over to the station. Lunch was then eaten and a photo that I’ve been wanting to get of a train arriving in platform 5 was got using the leading DVT of the 15:31 Kings Cross.
IMG_1238 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
This had arrived after the York terminator, which would form my service to Retford, so I found out that it’d be a dud for the year set but that one of the powercars was still required for 100. I wasn’t too happy at all to see that the milkfloat on the 15:31 Kings Cross, which stops at Donny, was one of my last 3 but it wasn’t worth losing tram mileage for so I just got a couple of photos and continued my wait.
43367 and 91122 by fishquinn1, on Flickr
185 duo by fishquinn1, on Flickr

I headed to the southern end of platform 9 to get a photo of the Aberdeen tram as it arrived, which was a pair of year requirements for the year, including a hundred-mile-requirement.
43316 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
My plan was to get both ex Aberdeens the next day (the 14:00 and 16:00 Kings Cross-Aberdeen services stay there overnight and come back on the 07:52 and 09:52 the next day) so I didn’t mind flagging it and watching the set leave without me. After that it was over to 43295 with 43367, which was on 89.5 miles, which were on the 16:02 Kings Cross.

The 15:57 non-stop to London was running 4 minutes late, which I assumed would delay us departing. I snapped a photo of 91131 as it departed from the vestibule window and, the moment after I’d got the photo of the departing milkfloat, we moved forward. Of course, it’s 4 track before Colton Junction!
91131 leaving York by fishquinn1, on Flickr

As expected, we slowed down just before Colton Junction and swung over to the Donny lines there before picking up speed. Retford leaps had gone really badly on my 2016 North East, with only one of the several tried working out, so I was assuming that something would go wrong with this one too, as it always seems to. We arrived at Donny 2-late, and I stayed in my seat just waiting for the announcement saying that there’d been a signal failure, powercar problem, police attendance, or some other thing that would cause us to be delayed. There wasn’t. We pulled forward from Doncaster 3-down and were soon picking up speed for the run to Retford.

There was quite a lot in the various yards at Doncaster, 9 locos being identified, and we were soon on the approach to Retford, having slowed for a level crossing on the way. I noticed that I had time for photos when I got off, so that’s what I did and I quickly changed platforms after seeing the tram out, as my connection was due in any minute.
43295 at Retford by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43367 at Retford by fishquinn1, on Flickr
When I got onto the other platform, I heard the dreaded sound of a milkfloat arriving. How much I hate that sound, especially when it should be an MTU rumbling in! Yep, dud for 100 91110 was running instead of the booked tram.

I got a bay of 4 on board and we were soon on the move. I noticed that this particular MK4 (I’m not sure if it was the whole set or not) had TV display things at each end of the coach saying various things, like the calling pattern and times, the journey progress, the departure board for the next station, the weather for the next station and stuff like that. They were quite funky, and it was a quick journey to Doncaster, where I bailed.
New MK4 screen by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Why did I get off at Donny? The Glasgow milkfloat was 5 minutes behind this one at Doncaster, and it also stops at York, so I thought that I may as well increase my chances of getting a required milkfloat at the cost of nothing except giving up my bay of 4. I left the train and immediately saw an AGA dusty. Well, part of an AGA dusty, but I’d seen the other half while arriving from York so I could claim 321305 as a winner for sight. I also got a photo of 67003, the Doncaster thunderbird, while waiting for the Glasgow train.
67003 at Doncaster by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Two different dusty bins by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I was rather ticked off to see what my milkfloat to York would be, as it was just another dud for 100 one, 91103. I’ve only had 8 of them for 100!

It seems that I’d have been much better off just staying on the York terminator in my bay of 4, as this service was rather busy. I managed to get a rubbish bay of 2 to myself for the journey though, so at least I got a seat. It was an uneventful journey up to York, where we arrived on time, and I got off and started getting photos of stuff around the station, including the milkfloat that I’d just got off.
91103 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
185106 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I only had to wait just over 20 minutes for my tram north, which should have 308 on, and I could soon see it arriving. It was looking good when I saw that it was 43315 leading, as that was the powercar that had been with 43308 when I last had gen on it. I ran down to the back of the train to check the rear powercar before boarding, and was very glad to see that it was indeed 43308. No longer on 1.25 miles!
43315 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
43308 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
A fairly good bay of 2 was selected on this train and we were soon on the move northwards, taking 308 into double figures. Even though I had had it before, as it was only on a Haymarket leap it may as well have been a winner, so it was very good to get it again, along with 315 as that was required for the year. After a dull journey along the racetrack in the quickly darkening light we were finally getting to Darlington.

I headed straight for 308 when I got off the tram and tried to get some half decent shots of it. They didn’t come out brilliantly, and it had soon left to continue its journey through to Aberdeen. Meanwhile I changed platforms to wait for the 18:28 milkfloat back to York, which was running about 5 minutes late. I could soon see headlights approaching, but they certainly weren’t DVT headlights. They looked more like tram headlights, with a third one slightly higher up. I stood there confused for a moment before it finally became clearer and I immediately put my camera’s ISO up to 6400 and got photo taking of 56113, which was working an engineering train top and tailed with 56105.
56113 at Darlington by fishquinn1, on Flickr
It looked hellfire, and I walked down the platform, it in the up loop, to try and get a less grainy photo once it had stopped.
Grid at Darlington by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I managed this but soon had to run back down to the end of the platform to identify the milkfloat on the Kings Cross train. I certainly wasn’t glad with the one I saw...

91126 was my 2015 North East Rover stalker and had been following me around then. It seems that it wants to repeat this. I looked at getting the milkfloat half an hour later but wasn’t sure if it’d get to York after my Scarborough train had departed, so I decided to play it safe and just got on board, getting into a bay of 2 for the dark ride back to York. It’s a shame that I made that decision though, as I’d have had 15 more minutes to marvel at the grids before they left (15 late) and I’d have made it back to York in time.

We were soon approaching York once again and I got off here and started getting photos of stuff in the 40 minutes I had before my Scarborough bound cart.
158797 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
I’ve always loved night time photos but have always really struggled at taking them, but I got some OKish ones while here, and noticed that Pumpkin had increased the price of the breakfast butty when you buy a hot drink (it used to be £1.25, it’s now £1.50).
43480 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
185118 at York by fishquinn1, on Flickr
Pumpkin sign by fishquinn1, on Flickr
91101 at York. by fishquinn1, on Flickr

I had kept an eye on the grids (using RTT), which were originally due through York at 19:17 but were running 15 minutes late so were now expected through at 19:32. As that time came and passed I looked at RTT to find out where they were, noticing that they were held at Skelton Junction. I wasn’t sure which platform they’d come through on now, so I headed over to the information booth thing to ask if they could check for me. The guy there was really soche and was happy to do so, but if didn’t seem to appear. I did another RTT check and found that they’d passed Skelton Junction 21 late, so I was unlikely to see them before my train. I thanked the guy there and headed over to platform 5, as my Scarborough 185 was now annoyingly due. No more grid thrash for me then.

I could see my diesel dez approaching when I got onto the platform and the number had soon come into view – dud 185102. Just looking at the amount of passengers waiting for the service told me that this would be much better loadings wise than the 16:40 or 17:40 that I usually get (this was the 19:40). I was completely right and I had no problems with getting a bay of 4 to myself in the front coach for the journey back. Many people got bays of 4 to themselves, and there were probably some free too.

We were soon on the move and a ticket check occurred not long after leaving York. After that it was just a case of sit back and relax for the 21-mile journey through to Malton, which was completed in 20 minutes. I got to Malton station to see dad stood waiting, so I wandered over to him and we headed over to the car, seeing that one of my two dogs was in there and was very glad to see me (the hounds had stayed with granny and granddad). We had soon navigated the annoying roadworks and were heading back to Pickering, where dinner was waiting for me after an excellent day. I already know what my plans for day 4 are!
 

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Sounded like another half productive day going up and down the dull part of the ECML

This is when you would have got to Berwick to find that the Ex-Aberdeen was running stupidly late with the call removed to regain time, with the next couple services would have been XCs ;)
 
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