Four-or-more wheeled motorists

[Coxster]

Dear four-or-more wheeled motorists,

Not so much a 'story' - more a polite request that drivers of four-or-more wheeled vehicles (cars in particular) actually slow down at junctions and look for motorcycles (and our non-petrol, pedal-powered friends). It's kind of annoying arriving home a little shaken, and with minor chest pains and light-headedness after someone has sailed straight across a busy main road from one side-road to another without looking or giving way to oncoming vehicles. Therefore, causing the rider to perform an emergency brake so fierce that they get sent straight into their handlebars and dash area rather violently, resulting in the aforementioned chest discomfort and painful knee (aww). It could also result in damage to your beloved car too, which would be terrible for all involved.

This plea goes out to everyone - no matter how big your yellow KA's spoiler is, or how loud you are playing your music at the time.

Thank you

 

[466.networkers]

Dear four-or-more wheeled motorists,

Not so much a 'story' - more a polite request that drivers of four-or-more wheeled vehicles (cars in particular) actually slow down at junctions and look for motorcycles (and our non-petrol, pedal-powered friends). It's kind of annoying arriving home a little shaken, and with minor chest pains and light-headedness after someone has sailed straight across a busy main road from one side-road to another without looking or giving way to oncoming vehicles. Therefore, causing the rider to perform an emergency brake so fierce that they get sent straight into their handlebars and dash area rather violently, resulting in the aforementioned chest discomfort and painful knee (aww). It could also result in damage to your beloved car too, which would be terrible for all involved.

This plea goes out to everyone - no matter how big your yellow KA's spoiler is, or how loud you are playing your music at the time.

Thank you

I agree with you here Damon. The amount of times cars have come to within 6 inches (or less hock: ) of my handlebars whilst on my Saracen is astonishing.
And they wonder why I shout and scream at them ....
The idiot in the Alfa Romeo deserves a special mention - the male driver had the audacity to have a go at ME after having to stop suddenly after not seeing me on the road whilst over the lines at a junction.

 

[Z12XE]

Not so much a 'story' - more a polite request that drivers of four-or-more wheeled vehicles (cars in particular) actually slow down at junctions and look for motorcycles (and our non-petrol, pedal-powered friends).

Last Sept I was on a main road (on a pedal bike) and waiting to cross on the left was a lady in a car, she had stopped at the line and I could see her looking in my direction.

As I was just about level with her, she moved forward.......

Bang


I doubt she'll do that again

 

[me123]

The treatment of motorcycles and bicycles by car drivers is, IMO, terrible by the majority. Most road users simply do not appreciate that 2-wheeled vehicles have as much right to be on the road as anyone else. Or maybe that's just in Coatbridge...

Anyhoo, I for one respect cyclists; caring for the environment, their own wallet and (in the case of bicycles) their own health. That said, I only hold a provisional driving license ATM so I haven't naturally encountered many bikes.

 

[Phoenix]

Quite strange but I have no problem here in the Birmingham area on my Vespa if anything motorists are polite towards me, one question though can all who have made a complaint on here of any incidents say they were wearing all the appropriate riding gear e.g flouresents ??????

 

[Craig]

the male driver had the audacity to have a go at ME

Perhaps you had given him some self taught PROfessional advice that he didn't like...

 

[D306]

The treatment of motorcycles and bicycles by car drivers is, IMO, terrible by the majority. Most road users simply do not appreciate that 2-wheeled vehicles have as much right to be on the road as anyone else.

hear hear

I tend to do a lot of cycling, and have had myself nearly driven off a road by an inconsiderate motorist. I've been honked at by numerous cars and vans. Cyclists and other two wheeled drivers should have the perfect right to driving on a road without getting hooted at by other road users

 

[Jordy]

Perhaps you had given him some self taught PROfessional advice that he didn't like...

None of that thank you

Have to agree here, I cycle to college and there is a mini roundabout on the way where some drivers seem to look at you, then pretend you don't exist! I also had a car driver make a turn right into the side of me recently

(Although I must admit, some cyclists can be as bad at times!)

Jordy

 

[Jord]

But why should Cyclists be allowed to use the road when they don't pay to be there?

E.G. Road tax.

 

[will1337]

They have very very little effect on road wear and tear compared to cars and don't take up much room on the road.

 

[westcoaster]

But why should Cyclists be allowed to use the road when they don't pay to be there?

E.G. Road tax.

wonder what the co2 emmission is from a push bike?

 

[Craig]

But why should Cyclists be allowed to use the road when they don't pay to be there?

E.G. Road tax.

Does that mean I can run pedestrians over when they're crossing the road?

 

[will1337]

You don't need an excuse

 

[Phoenix]

So do any of you wear floresant clothing on your motorcycle's or bike's then because it seems that no one is answering this one.

 

[westcoaster]

i wear my works hi-vizz (orange)

 

[richa2002]

So do any of you wear floresant clothing on your motorcycle's or bike's then because it seems that no one is answering this one.

Nah, you look like a tit in my opinion.

 

[466.networkers]

Quite strange but I have no problem here in the Birmingham area on my Vespa if anything motorists are polite towards me, one question though can all who have made a complaint on here of any incidents say they were wearing all the appropriate riding gear e.g flouresents ??????

Erm, nope. There are 2 good reasons for this:

1) It was a clear day therefore the driver should've seen me clearly.
2) I don't own any hi-vis clothing outside of work. (I'd look a tit anyway )

Posted via a mobile device, hence the lack of signature!

 

[Jordy]

No I don't wear hi-vis

 

[Phoenix]

Well if you guy's dont wear Hi-viz then it gives them a perfect reason to pretend your not there.
And for asll those who said they would look silly there are worse things like a face full of pavement.
Anyway the fact is I wear all the neccessary kit and I get bothered alot less and also learning defensive driving is key to not being hassled.

 

[D9521]

If i was riding on the road id probally wear high vis but as the pavements are quiet i just stick to them for safety

 

[Z12XE]

But why should Cyclists be allowed to use the road when they don't pay to be there?

E.G. Road tax.

Thats nonsence

Cars, Vans and Lorries etc dont pay Road Tax as such.
They pay Vehicle excise duty which isnt directly for spending on roads.

 

[Phoenix]

Thats nonsence

Cars, Vans and Lorries etc dont pay Road Tax as such.
They pay Vehicle excise duty which isnt directly for spending on roads.

See im undecided on this obviously I pay some form of Road Tax for my Moped but with Bike's im not sure they really should.
But I definatly think bicycles should have a set of rule's applied to them and one of them being that there are not allowed on Dual Carrige way's as it's stupid to see one on a Dual carrigeway because when there are cars going 60MPH and bike's going about 30 it really makes you think how stupid cycleists can be.....

 

[D306]

It depends on the time of the day really. As the lanes around me are narrow, and cars go fast round them, it's best to wear a Hi Viz so they can see you and know not to hit you (ha!)

 

[Coxster]

emunit:- Admittedly not but, as per the recommendation in the Highway Code, I do always ride with my dips on. One question though - you say that cyclists (riding at 30mph :??? shouldn't be on dual-carriageways due to the speed. Surely that's the same speed as your moped can do - or do you avoid the dual-carriageways?

 

[Guinness]

I actually look in both of my mirrors at lights, because I'm a good boy.

Usually the problem areas are people who turn into a lane last minute with little concentration to mirrors and no use of indicators.

 

[andrewmay]

Get a car.

 

[Guinness]

I personally think it should be a law that Cyclists wear Hi-Vises at night. One incident that sticks in my mind is that I was driving down a Country Lane late at night, where my Lights were on Full Beam (Due to the nature of the road) because of this the Rear Red Lights the Bike and the dark clothing the cyclist wore were ineffective because of the reflections off my lights. I saw the Orange Pedal reflectors late and luckily I had enough width of the road to swerve and avoid them.

Also from a drivers point of view, Hi-Vises are far more easier to see from a distance, which is also beneficial to the cyclist as I can turn off my Full Beam Lights off earlier!

 

[Phoenix]

One question though - you say that cyclists (riding at 30mph :??? shouldn't be on dual-carriageways due to the speed. Surely that's the same speed as your moped can do - or do you avoid the dual-carriageways?

Good point but my bike can do 45 mph and sometimes 50 in favourable conditions but there are a few roads I do avoid.
Basically if I dont feel confident about doing it I wont.

 

[Guinness]

Get a car.

No, don't.

1) People will want lifts off you and most of the time they won't pay you (usually family members) at inconvenient times e.g. "you owe me a favour" crap
2) Road Tax goes up every year this year I will have to pay £40 more than last year for a few more expenses for MPs
3) Insurance is a complete rip off with insurance companies refusing to provide money for claims because your address has one letter wrong...
4) Petrol/Diesel prices are far too high at the moment with Fuel Stations/Companies in it together to fix prices. My local Esso 117.9, Shell 117.9 and Tesco 117.9...
5) MOTs are apparently going up again
6) The government HATES motoring despite them gaining an extra £1.2m a week extra on fuel duty in this current climate and will rip you off every chance they can get
7) Coppers that pull over young drivers and follow them for miles, I've been pulled over twice in the past 2 weeks for "Routine Checks"...:roll:

 

[Craig]

5) MOTs are apparently going up again

Before mine is due at the end of the year too :roll: