Four methods of stopping a train

[andrew_evans]

Currently do my rules and regulations training and trying to answer the above question which says:

What are the four methods of carrying out protection (I.e stopping a train)

I think I know the answer but was just wondering what everyone else thought.

cheers in advance.

 

[LCC106]

Best way to learn if you're right is to post what you think and we'll confirm

 

[Smudger105e]

Are they asking for ways to stop a train, or methods of protecting a train (i.e. stopping traffic approaching? The context of the quesion would be helpful.

Brakes, AWS, TPWS, Derailment? :P

 

[Dave1987]

Currently do my rules and regulations training and trying to answer the above question which says:

What are the four methods of carrying out protection (I.e stopping a train)

I think I know the answer but was just wondering what everyone else thought.

cheers in advance.

Are you looking for the rules regarding emergency protection or what you would do to stop a train from the lineside?

 

[andrew_evans]

Best way to learn if you're right is to post what you think and we'll confirm

The answer i came up with was the emergency protection method which involves four things ie clips, dets, red flag, call the signaller. All though they are four things is it four things within one method?

But it got me thinking would the four methods be; emergency protection, emergency button on the GSM-R, emergency button on the NRN or contacting the signaller directly.

 

[FQ]

I would say full on Emergency brakes, Throttle down, Gear into Reverse.

 

[Hyphen]

Brakes, AWS, TPWS, Derailment? :P

You forgot the passenger pull cord

 

[LCC106]

If we're talking about stopping an approaching train I would say Track Circuit Operating Clips, Emergency button on the NRN or GSMR, red hand signal, any light waved vigorously, dets as a basic answer. Have I understood correctly?

 

[Railsigns]

There are four ways to stop an approaching train from the lineside in an emergency:

1. Both arms raised above the head.
2. Red flag.
3. Red light.
4. Any light waved violently.

 

[trentside]

I think the phrasing of the question is a little unclear. I've come across something similar and they were asking about the methods of protection. I would say Track Circuit Operating Clips, detonators, red flag / lamp and emergency call to the signaller.

 

[carriageline]

I agree with rail signs, I was asked a similar question for my rules (signaller) and rail signs answer was the right one.

Ie: you see something wrong on the railway, what ways can you stop oncoming trains?

Wouldn't say clips was a definite one, as you obviously can't use them in every Astra (ie AB line, axle counter areas) etc.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

There are four ways to stop an approaching train from the lineside in an emergency:
2. Red flag.

Does this include the use of red flannel petticoats that was made famous by Jenny Agutter in "The Railway Children"...

 

[ChrisTheRef]

Just a tip, rail forums are not the place to learn your rules, as this happens ^^

 

[trentside]

Just a tip, rail forums are not the place to learn your rules, as this happens ^^

Yes, reading upwards I think the OP would be better off asking his instructor for clarification on what they're looking for!

 

[Komma]

Andrew,you know what to do to get the answer.
When in doubt ask Yoda(Trevor),for people who don't know who he is,he is Andrew's instructor and he trained me a year ago.

 

[Railsigns]

[Red flag]

Does this include the use of red flannel petticoats that was made famous by Jenny Agutter in "The Railway Children"...

Yes, but it's best not to stand in the four-foot.

 

[sarahj]

I always think its odd when you practice and are tested on emergency calls you get old off if you miss the 'who am i talking to' bit. Yet whenever I've called a box, the first thing they say is eg 'hello lewes box, joe bloggs, signaller speaking'.

Not in the rule book, but I've done arms folded when your being given the tip on a red. Waving at them to point the mistake just makes them get miffed cause to them its a wave back, yet your not closing the doors. I've had one only get the hint that I'm not going when a fast zoomed past. (we were on a loop platform).

Anyway

By the track:
Red light
Red flag
both hands in the air.

On the trains: to others

Track clips
Phone call
Red flag,
red light,
Dets.
there is also a way on a 377 to flash the headlights and bils to warn another train your in trouble.

on the train

Cord or pass comm
one on the bell
mushrooms in the cab
brake
c-c call.

 

[185]

Couldn't resist.

Brakes. Deliberate derailment. Removal of traction power. Uncoupling at speed :P

ok... ok

- Call to signaller
- Flags
- Dets
- Both Arms Up Flat Hands Forward

 

[#1 driver]

on loco , flashing headlight , train in distress whistle , red lights , gsmr stop button , nrn emergency button .

 

[LowLevel]

Always, always, always ask your instructor - right up until the point you're sat in your exam and they aren't allowed to help you, they will talk you through it. It isn't about looking good, it's about getting settled in your head.

Why bother risking losing the points from either the well informed and intentioned but not sure from what context the question is aimed it guys (who are just trying to answer the question you've asked - but you're not really helping them to help you) or people who evidently have no idea what they're on about, but feel inclined to chip in anyway (sorry, fishquinn, but I'm looking at you here!).

 

[Smudger105e]

Anyway

By the track:
Red light
Red flag
both hands in the air.

i was always told any white light waved violently is an acceptable method also...

 

[sarahj]

I'm not 100% sure on that one. My rule book is not to hand. There are also some exceptions if the train is carrying bullion/money/certain goods, eg odd signals, being flagged down, with further complex rules. All after a 40 was stopped for a iffy red light in the 60's. and that made the news.

The problem with a white light, its could just be a car on a nearby road bouncing around. I have known drivers to anchor up when on passing a platform, a cyclist was pushing their bike down with a rear red tail light.

 

[andrew_evans]

Taking the advice from here ive just txt my insturtor asking him.

 

[bluenoxid]

mushrooms in the cab

Am I the only one very perplexed by this comment?

 

[ASharpe]

Am I the only one very perplexed by this comment?

They are usually red, often with a yellow base, and about 1.5 inch across. Not edible but doubt one would kill you. They also have a tendency to stop all machinery in the close vicinity when crushed. Often revived when twisted.

See an example photo here http://www.oilybits.com/emergency-stop--cutout-switch/prod_270.html

 

[talltim]

A nuclear flask wagon across the line seems to work

 

[Bedpan]

Does this include the use of red flannel petticoats that was made famous by Jenny Agutter in "The Railway Children"...

Or blowing up an bridge as in "The Bridge on the River Kwai"

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I have known drivers to anchor up when on passing a platform, a cyclist was pushing their bike down with a rear red tail light.

I've seen that happen; an ecs formed of 377s on the up slow through New Cross Gate in the evening peak roughly November last year. Wondering if it's the same incident that you have in mind?

Surprised they haven't made a rule that cyclists must switch their lights off when wheeling a bike along a platform...

 

[ANorthernGuard]

4 ways of stopping a train From the lineside

Red Flag
2 Arms above head
Red Light
White Light waved Vigourously

3 ways on a Train

1 on Buzzer
Emergency Brake
Passcom

 

[Railsigns]

White Light waved Vigourously

Any light waved violently. It doesn't need to be white.