Forecasting uk rolling stock!

[bkkr25]

Hi everyone. New member but have been following the forums for a while.

I'm working on something that's hopefully really interesting - trying to work out the amount of upcoming contracted and prospective/ rumored UK rolling stock out to 2024 by manufacturer - Siemens, Bombardier, Hitachi.

I wondered if anyone would have anything to add to my list on contracted stock:

Bombardier class 345: Crossrail 1; EMU; CP5-504 cars, CP6-90 cars
Bombardier class 378; London Overground; EMU; CP5-180
Siemens class 707; South West; EMU; CP5-150
Siemens class 350; various; EMU; CP5-40
Bombardier class 357; c2c; EMU; CP6-68
Bombardier class 387; ThamesLink and Gatwick; EMU; CP5-224
Siemens class 700; Thameslink; EMU; CP5-1140
Hitachi AT200; ScotRail; EMU; CP5-234
Hitachi 800/801; various; D/EMU; CP5-596, CP6-270

Wondered if would anyone have anything else to add that's contacted?

And I haven't even started on the rumoured/ prospective stuff like CrossRail2 etc - if anyone has any idea?


Thanks!!

 

[Domh245]

The LO trains won't be 378s, they will be new Aventra trains similar to the Crossrail trains. Similar story with the C2C order as well, they won't be 357s. The Thameslink 387s have all been delivered as far as I know. I wasn't aware of any additional 350s! Where did you hear this?

 

[Stonesourscotty]

i was curious at the 350 part too?

 

[WatcherZero]

Offering 2:1 odds hes working directly or indirectly for the Labour party trying to work out what nationalisation would entail.

 

[northwichcat]

Offering 2:1 odds hes working directly or indirectly for the Labour party trying to work out what nationalisation would entail.

Given the non-British spellings in the OP should that be the Labor Party?

 

[Bald Rick]

Save yourself the bother by emailing Roger Ford and ask him for his spreadsheet that does this.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

There is no way that any more 350s will be built, the design doesn't meet the current crash regs and I don't think that Siemens would offer it now anyway as the newest ones are based on the 380s

 

[Emblematic]

As the current designs seem to be having a few problems meeting the crashworthiness standards, they are hardly likely to resurrect the old designs again ??????

 

[northwichcat]

As the current designs seem to be having a few problems meeting the crashworthiness standards, they are hardly likely to resurrect the old designs again ��

Also Siemens will be lacking the resources to take on any more orders until the Thameslink order is delivered.

 

[swt_passenger]

i was curious at the 350 part too?

Given it was about CP5, and 40 vehicles, perhaps the OP doesn't realise it had already been delivered?

 

[Domh245]

Given it was about CP5, and 40 vehicles, perhaps the OP doesn't realise it had already been delivered?

But there were 80, 40 at TPE, 40 at LM.

 

[Philip Phlopp]

But there were 80, 40 at TPE, 40 at LM.

TPE delivered end of CP4, LM delivered start CP5 ? Delivery dates are something I don't really pay attention to.

 

[swt_passenger]

But there were 80, 40 at TPE, 40 at LM.

But they were sometimes mentioned as separate 10 car orders, one for LM, and one for TPE. If someone wasn't completely up to speed they could have got separated.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Also Siemens will be lacking the resources to take on any more orders until the Thameslink order is delivered.

and the SWT class 707 order (can't remember if either SWT or TL have options available for follow on orders)

 

[swt_passenger]

and the SWT class 707 order

...already in the list.

 

[Class377/5]

and the SWT class 707 order (can't remember if either SWT or TL have options available for follow on orders)

700 deal has extra trains and/or carriages plus some recongifuring opitions attached (10 car trains is one possible idea along with making 8 cars 12).

EDIT:

New LO stock is class 710.

 

[Haydn1971]

New LO stock is class 710.

Out of curiosity, will the 710's have triple doors like the 345's ?

 

[Domh245]

Out of curiosity, will the 710's have triple doors like the 345's ?

I believe the plan is for 2 sets of doors and 20m carriages, vs the 3 sets of doors 23m carriages for the 345s.

 

[Class377/5]

Out of curiosity, will the 710's have triple doors like the 345's ?

Released pictures show two doors

http://www.globalrailnews.com/2015/...-newest-addition-to-london-overgrounds-fleet/