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This is something I've been trying to highlight for ages, He is paid far more than most Bankers .....for failure.

Look at RAFA B picked up millions from Liverpool spent six months at Inter and picked up more millions when sacked....yet remains a folk hero not a "Fat Cat"

Benitez was not a failure.

He took Liverpool to two Champions League finals, and an FA Cup - and they won two out of those three.

If that is the work of a failed football manager, then most of the current ones have failed apart from Ferguson and Mourinho.
 
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Does the England job require a Full Time Manager/Coach, or could Happy Harry have a dual role?


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Sorry, I'm going back a few pages....

....Under the method you suggest a game would go on for hours as everyone would challenge every decision that is borderline.

I'm not talking about every time there is a foul or what have you, but genuine times where the officials are not sure what the right decision is, you know, goals that aren't (or are), maybe for something happening behind the ref's back, that sort of thing.
 

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Sorry, I'm going back a few pages....



I'm not talking about every time there is a foul or what have you, but genuine times where the officials are not sure what the right decision is, you know, goals that aren't (or are), maybe for something happening behind the ref's back, that sort of thing.

I am with you on goal line stuff for sure.
 

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Benitez was not a failure.

He took Liverpool to two Champions League finals, and an FA Cup - and they won two out of those three.

If that is the work of a failed football manager, then most of the current ones have failed apart from Ferguson and Mourinho.

Benitez was also able to pull of a lot of good results in Europe against much superior teams. We are heading for a European competition. Benitez plus Europe equals success. Excellent idea.

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Im not sure Benitez was a great success but surely a better option than the god awful Kenny Dogleash, £20m for Stuart Downing?? Randy Lerner must have choked on his corn flakes and laughed all the way to the bank.
 

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No benitez wasn't a great success overall, although in Europe he was very successful. Although saying that he probably got the best out of Liverpool managers of recent times.

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YorkshireRider:980135 said:
Im not sure Benitez was a great success but surely a better option than the god awful Kenny Dogleash, £20m for Stuart Downing?? Randy Lerner must have choked on his corn flakes and laughed all the way to the bank.

And now laughing on the other side of his face now Petrov is pretty much the only experienced midfielder we have at villa park now. Young can't get a game at Man Ure despite their injury worries. Only Barry and Milner are having some form of success.

Moral of the story? Don't pretend you're leaving for football when it's obviously money.
Downing was a good player at the villa since he had more of a starring role and could play alongside young. Now he's a small fish in a big pond
 

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Downing was a good player at the villa since he had more of a starring role and could play alongside young. Now he's a small fish in a big pond
He's played 26 games for Liverpool, out of 24 League games, 2 FA Cup games and 5 Carling Cup games. Hardly a small fish.
 

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Man Utd v Liverpool then? One of those type of games where it needs an early goal, or they tend (going on previous games in recent years) to be settled by one goal, leading to the goalscorers 'shutting up shop' and holding out, rarely overly entertaining, Liverpool's problem for many years now has been that they raise their game against the 'big boys' and struggle against the so called lesser sides. United, on the other hand have that 'winning' mentality and still continue to 'do it' year in year out.
I see this one ending in a 1-1 draw this time round...
Suarez and Evra to 'kiss and make up' ? Odds anyone:roll:
 
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Hmmmm, that depends on whether Phil Dowd can resist the temptation to send a Liverpool player off. My money is on Martin Skrtel before half time.
 

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That was a surprise, Suaraz not shaking Evra's hand, then ferdinand refused to shake his hand.
 

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What odds would you put on a Penalty for Utd? After having '4' in there last '2' games! The last game can be excused as Howard Webb was the ref so it was expected.
 

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Suarez was banned for eight matches on little more than hearsay from Evra. I think he has every right not to shake his hand.

I heard Ferdinand (quack quack) should have walked for bringing down Suarez as last man but needless to say he did not. Man Utd's 12 men are doing what they do best.

Here's hoping Suarez goes on to get a hat-trick although the referee will ensure it doesn't happen
 

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Suarez was banned for eight matches on little more than hearsay from Evra. I think he has every right not to shake his hand.

I heard Ferdinand (quack quack) should have walked for bringing down Suarez as last man but needless to say he did not. Man Utd's 12 men are doing what they do best.

Here's hoping Suarez goes on to get a hat-trick although the referee will ensure it doesn't happen

Who is the referee today....I should imagine a strong one was required with the recent happenings. I see that Rooney scored twice just after half-time, Suarez makes his point by not shaking hands but by scoring near the end but it still finished 2-1 in favour of the home team, who went top with this result.
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Suarez was banned for eight matches on little more than hearsay from Evra.

I thought that Suarez had admitted what he said....or was this not the case?
 

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Suarez was banned for eight matches on little more than hearsay from Evra. I think he has every right not to shake his hand.

I heard Ferdinand (quack quack) should have walked for bringing down Suarez as last man but needless to say he did not. Man Utd's 12 men are doing what they do best.

Here's hoping Suarez goes on to get a hat-trick although the referee will ensure it doesn't happen

I know you are a Villa fan but I have to say you are wrong on all three points !!

Ref had a decent game today IMHO definitely not even a foul by Ferdinand on Suarez let alone a red card
and Suarez admitted using an offensive word so not hearsay
 

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Suarez was banned for eight matches on little more than hearsay from Evra. I think he has every right not to shake his hand.

I heard Ferdinand (quack quack) should have walked for bringing down Suarez as last man but needless to say he did not. Man Utd's 12 men are doing what they do best.

Here's hoping Suarez goes on to get a hat-trick although the referee will ensure it doesn't happen

He admitted calling Evra 'negrito' :roll:

Being last man isn't necessarily a sending off, the rule is denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Nothing about being last man in the rules.
 

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With regards to Suarez as well - he shouldn't even be playing this week! How on earth he got away with the kick-out at Parker last week, a more clear-cut incident than the one Balotelli got 4 matches for...
 

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