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SuspectUsual

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World Cup 2018: SF
Euro 2020: Final
World Cup 2022: QF
Euro 2024: SF?

2018 - richest league and best funded FA in the world
2020 - repeat
2022 - repeat
2024 - repeat

We’re doing what we do despite the manager, not because of him
 

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Looks like I'm singing and doing "Links/Rechts" for the next few days. Hup!!!
 

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2018 - richest league and best funded FA in the world
2020 - repeat
2022 - repeat
2024 - repeat

We’re doing what we do despite the manager, not because of him
Having the richest league and best funded FA doesn't give us better players than other countries. If anything, we improve other countries by bringing so many of their players here to learn to play at a high level.
 

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Just to add, Holland beat Turkey 2-1 last night, so play England in the second semi-final on Wednesday (20:00 ITV).
 

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2018 - richest league and best funded FA in the world
2020 - repeat
2022 - repeat
2024 - repeat

We’re doing what we do despite the manager, not because of him

I don't understand how that has any bearing on the national team....
 

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Agree but looking at the news since & media in general I assume ‘Trent’ won it totally on his own with no contributions from anyone else :s

Absolutely no issue here about him being the face of the win. He's took pelters all tournament for being used as a failed experiment so to come on and take the decisive fifth penalty like that, deserves all the praise thrown his way. If he'd have missed that penalty and Switzerland had gone on to win it you can bet your bottom dollar 'Trent' would have lost it all on his own.
 

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I don't understand how that has any bearing on the national team....

Because it should facilitate proper funding of youth and management development which in turn should drive improvement in national team performance.

England perform less well than they should, whereas other countries like Slovenia outperform massively
 

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Because it should facilitate proper funding of youth and management development which in turn should drive improvement in national team performance.

England perform less well than they should, whereas other countries like Slovenia outperform massively
And yet it’s still England that are in the semi finals. Consistently.
 

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…..England perform less well than they should, whereas other countries like Slovenia outperform massively
One could argue (well it’s a forum so why not), that England even when they are playing ‘poorly’ are still better than many countries who are playing well.
 

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Spain beat France 2-1 to reach the Euro’s final where they will no doubt be playing England ( :) )
I feel Spain were and have been the best team in the tournament, but I find it difficult to warm to a side who spend more time on the floor holding their faces than on the pitch holding onto the ball.
 

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Spain beat France 2-1 to reach the Euro’s final where they will no doubt be playing England ( :) )
I feel Spain were and have been the best team in the tournament, but I find it difficult to warm to a side who spend more time on the floor holding their faces than on the pitch holding onto the ball.
None of that referred-to floor-based face holding was noticeable when Spain came from behind to win, especially at the time when their 16-year old player took possession, moved into position and scored a really good goal from quite a distance.

Are there any official facts available that would show the exact time that Spain were in possession on the pitch and the time intimated that Spanish players spent on the floor holding their faces?

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Pre-Season Friendly

Hyde United 2 ... FC Halifax Town 1

Hyde led 1-0 at half-time. Friendly matches against higher-level opposition are a good idea in pre-season matches, as it gives the lower-level team manager a good idea on the ability to perform by certain players,
 
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Spain beat France 2-1 to reach the Euro’s final where they will no doubt be playing England ( :) )
I feel Spain were and have been the best team in the tournament, but I find it difficult to warm to a side who spend more time on the floor holding their faces than on the pitch holding onto the ball.
I agree, I didn’t like the way they were playing in the second half. Also, how on earth were there only 5 minutes of stoppage time?!
 

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Because it should facilitate proper funding of youth and management development which in turn should drive improvement in national team performance.

England perform less well than they should, whereas other countries like Slovenia outperform massively
How well should they perform? World Cup semi-finals followed by beaten on penalties in Euro 2021 final followed by World Cup quarter-finals and now in Euro 2024 semis. Performing better would mean basically getting to the final of everything every time, which no premier national team manages to do ever.

Slovenia are a typical mid-ranking European country, who have only progressed to the knockout stages once (this time), so they have much in common with most countries around their level. Not sure how their performances can be defined as outperforming massively.

Bear in mind as well that all European countries (except micro nations) have extensive youth development programmes at dozens of professional clubs, with all but the very smallest having thousands of young players given the fullest opportunity to develop. The club I support in Sweden plays in the third tier but has over 100 teams competing in its set-up from the senior sides through the academy right down to small kids.
 

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Slovenia are a typical mid-ranking European country, who have only progressed to the knockout stages once (this time), so they have much in common with most countries around their level. Not sure how their performances can be defined as outperforming massively.
It’s countries such as Croatia that have outperforming.
 

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Can’t be giving penalties for that. His studs weren’t even really up, Kane has kicked the bottom of his foot.
 

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It’s a weird one. I don’t think it should have been a penalty but you do see a lot of free kicks given in broadly similar circumstances where a defender clears the ball as he’s closed down by an attacker and kicks the attackers outstretched foot.

But getting booked for being kicked is insult to injury
 

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