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Tesco: a single pint of semi-skimmed milk is now 85p. This represents the fourth price increase this year. It was 55p last November so a 55% rise. The two-pinters and four-pinters are much cheaper (per pint/litre) but don't fit in the freezer.
 

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Tesco: a single pint of semi-skimmed milk is now 85p. This represents the fourth price increase this year. It was 55p last November so a 55% rise. The two-pinters and four-pinters are much cheaper (per pint/litre) but don't fit in the freezer.

Rebottle them into used one pint containers before freezing? Or just lie them down, that's what I do, they won't leak if the seal is intact.
 

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Tesco: a single pint of semi-skimmed milk is now 85p. This represents the fourth price increase this year. It was 55p last November so a 55% rise. The two-pinters and four-pinters are much cheaper (per pint/litre) but don't fit in the freezer.
Average farmgate price of milk in GB (NI is dearer) in pence per litre
May 2021 30.06
May 2022 39.88

Sorry can't be more up-to-date, but I think it rose in June by another 5 to 6 per cent.
 

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Rebottle them into used one pint containers before freezing? Or just lie them down, that's what I do, they won't leak if the seal is intact.
It is convenient having a single-pinter (or three) in the freezer for 'emergencies'. Such as if I finish a bottle off quicker than expected, or I forget to buy, or the weather is bad, or the shop has none when I get there, or some kind of virus locks us down in our homes. It is easier to buy a pint than having a supply of old containers lying around, plus I'm never certain they are proper clean when washed, plus I'd have to label them to use them in order. All minor things I fully accept. Regarding larger containers I was concerned about the expanding liquid forcing off the top if laying it down.

One idea suggested is to freeze it in ice cube amounts and just drop one into my mug as required.

My concern is whether the price of a pint is increasing faster than the price of larger containers. Are retailers using 'nudge tactics' to dissuade people from buying single pints? Single pints of organic milk disappeared at the start of the pandemic and have not returned. I did ask Tesco (over a year ago) whether they were coming back but only received a holding response. I'd prefer it if they were honest and just said no they aren't!

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And how do you store them once you have opened them?
By not fully filling the bottle so it expands but not enough to spill out.
 

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It looks as though the Co-op have raised the price of their cheapest strawberry jam from £1 or £1.10 to £1.40. (Unless they have decided to only stock more expensive options.)
I've found that individual Heinz soup cans - interestingly in both Iceland and Waitrose - have had exactly the same prices rises. But everything in Iceland seems to be on a 4 for 3 or 4 for £3 offer these days.
And picking up on one of Gloster's other posts, our local town food bank donations seem to be holding up - but food bank colleagues have been standing at the entrance to our biggest supermarket here handing out leaflets to "nudge" you ....
 

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I've found that individual Heinz soup cans - interestingly in both Iceland and Waitrose - have had exactly the same prices rises. But everything in Iceland seems to be on a 4 for 3 or 4 for £3 offer these days.
And picking up on one of Gloster's other posts, our local town food bank donations seem to be holding up - but food bank colleagues have been standing at the entrance to our biggest supermarket here handing out leaflets to "nudge" you ....
I've always wondered, if I'm feeling a bit stretched this week, can I dip into that basket of donated goods to give myself a donation?
 

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My concern is whether the price of a pint is increasing faster than the price of larger containers. Are retailers using 'nudge tactics' to dissuade people from buying single pints? Single pints of organic milk disappeared at the start of the pandemic and have not returned. I did ask Tesco (over a year ago) whether they were coming back but only received a holding response. I'd prefer it if they were honest and just said no they aren't!
I think basically that single pints continued to rise through the last 20 years while the price of 4 pinters stayed pretty static, to the point where you start wondering if the bottle costs more to make than the milk. the price rises in the last year seem to have been roughly in proportion
 

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Not any more you can’t: the BBC are reporting that the cheeseburger has gone up to £1.19. No news about the hamburger. (Am I bothered? No, I have been boycotting McSatan’s for years.)
I don't really understand why you'd pay that for a Cheeseburger. I only go to McDonald's occasionally when I have the medium fries and Big Mac coupon for £1.99 from the Metro although I end up paying more than that on just the drink as well if I get a milkshake or a raspberry ripple.
They took the two best things on breakfast menu off, bagel and wrap. Tim Hortons breakfast is no match.

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Tim horton's breakfast deal is very good and filling even though it appears to have gone up 50p since the Spring. I would like to go there more often but they don't have any outlets in Edinburgh/Lothians yet. Dunfermline and Stenhousemuir are currently the closest which I've been to.
 

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Morrison’s own brand 1 kg. Bran flakes now £1.69, up (again) from £1.59. (See #203 and #258.)

Morrison’s own brand 80 g. Tuna chunks in spring water up from £2 to £2.15.

Morrison’s own 85 g. Mild curry instant noodles now 49 p. Up from 45 p., while only a couple of months ago they were 39 p.
 

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Well, ended up going to that Pacel Shed in Kings Cross due to time and geographical constraints.

It's not my favourite outlet, even for the North London terminals, and I expect to pay a premium - but over six pounds for a pint of ale !?

Unacceptable really.

The only reason I end up there is because the HST's from St P have been scrapped, but really can't see myself going there again except in a dire emergency.
 

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Well, ended up going to that Pacel Shed in Kings Cross due to time and geographical constraints.

It's not my favourite outlet, even for the North London terminals, and I expect to pay a premium - but over six pounds for a pint of ale !?

Unacceptable really.

The only reason I end up there is because the HST's from St P have been scrapped, but really can't see myself going there again except in a dire emergency.

Got some bad news for you.


A pint of beer in London is on track to hit £14 in just two and a half years if inflation and energy costs continue to surge, new research predicts. Higher energy costs, wages and supply chain issues have meant businesses have been forced to pass on costs to customers with the price of every day purchases soaring.

As well as £14 for a pint of beer, a cup of takeaway coffee is also likely to soar in price to as much as £4.44, and the average Uber trip will hit £26, by 2025, according to figures from pension provider Penfold.

The cost of a pint of beer in London has already gone up by 16% since 2017 with punters paying over £7 in many pubs across the capital.

Higher energy costs, wages and supply chain issues have meant struggling businesses have had to pass on costs to customers. Prices have gone up by 9% in the last year and are predicted to increase by another 6% in 2023.
 

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Got some bad news for you.


If anything calls for a government intervention, that does.

Barley, hops, water, these are all things that are found within the British isles. There is no excuse for a 300% increase.
 

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If anything calls for a government intervention, that does.

Barley, hops, water, these are all things that are found within the British isles. There is no excuse for a 300% increase.
What do you suggest? A £400 credit against our bar tabs to get us through the winter? :D
 

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What do you suggest? A £400 credit against our bar tabs to get us through the winter? :D

As I say, the ingredients are all produced within the United Kingdom, so there is no excuse for massive inflation from outside.

If anything, the beer duty that has blighted publicans for years should be reduced.
 

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As I say, the ingredients are all produced within the United Kingdom, so there is no excuse for massive inflation from outside.

If anything, the beer duty that has blighted publicans for years should be reduced.
I don't disagree. Unfortunately all that will happen is they'll knock 1p off and claim to be helping - a bit like with the petrol.
 

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I don't disagree. Unfortunately all that will happen is they'll knock 1p off and claim to be helping - a bit like with the petrol.

If it gets to that stage, I think we'll be back to emergency powers as it will be a war like situation.
 

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Tesco: a single pint of semi-skimmed milk is now 85p. This represents the fourth price increase this year. It was 55p last November so a 55% rise. The two-pinters and four-pinters are much cheaper (per pint/litre) but don't fit in the freezer.

In Morrisons today it was £1.55 for 4 pints, and £1.25 for 2 pints, more than in Aldi last week. I usually do a combined weekly Aldi + Morrisons shop, but my car is in for repair and I couldn't be bothered to walk to Aldi for any of the handful of things I need before I get the car back. I usually get a 4 pint container that last a week, but as I'm away next weekend was going to get a 2 pint one, but at those prices as long as I use at least 2.5 pints from the larger container I won't be worse off.
 

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As I say, the ingredients are all produced within the United Kingdom, so there is no excuse for massive inflation from outside.

If anything, the beer duty that has blighted publicans for years should be reduced.
Not that much of the barley used in beer does come from the UK, and even less of the hops. In any case UK agricultural produce has been hugely affected by the B word due to the rather piecemeal replacement of only some of the EU agricultural subsidies and the removal of the chief source of seasonal labour.

More to the point, the majority of the cost of beer in the pubs is in running the pubs. The production and duty costs are all equally applicable to off-sales, so the fact that beer in a pub costs more than five times as much isn't primarily being driven by that. What is affecting it is the need to start paying back Covid support loans, the shortage of workers meaning that even paying a semi-respectable wage isn't getting enough staff through the doors, and pubs having to pay utility bills just like the rest of us, but with much weaker controls on the maximum price they pay.
 

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Not that much of the barley used in beer does come from the UK, and even less of the hops. In any case UK agricultural produce has been hugely affected by the B word due to the rather piecemeal replacement of only some of the EU agricultural subsidies and the removal of the chief source of seasonal labour.

More to the point, the majority of the cost of beer in the pubs is in running the pubs. The production and duty costs are all equally applicable to off-sales, so the fact that beer in a pub costs more than five times as much isn't primarily being driven by that. What is affecting it is the need to start paying back Covid support loans, the shortage of workers meaning that even paying a semi-respectable wage isn't getting enough staff through the doors, and pubs having to pay utility bills just like the rest of us, but with much weaker controls on the maximum price they pay.

Alcohol tax is a big bugbear of mine as pubs have long been disadvantaged against cheap supermarket sales.

Pubs need relief against the Covid loan crisis as they are a unique part of British cultural life.
 

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More to the point, the majority of the cost of beer in the pubs is in running the pubs. The production and duty costs are all equally applicable to off-sales, so the fact that beer in a pub costs more than five times as much isn't primarily being driven by that. What is affecting it is the need to start paying back Covid support loans, the shortage of workers meaning that even paying a semi-respectable wage isn't getting enough staff through the doors, and pubs having to pay utility bills just like the rest of us, but with much weaker controls on the maximum price they pay.
Pubs are not protected by energy price caps like residential properties are. Some pubs have been forced to close as energy prices have gone through the roof. Also I imagine with the cost of living crisis some people are cutting back on pub trips. Many pubs are soon going to need Government support in order to keep prices at a reasonable level and I can't see the Government financially supporting pubs.
 

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Large increase in the price of Wonky Carrots at Aldi - from 49p a bag to 58p ...... :|
 

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Large increase in the price of Wonky Carrots at Aldi - from 49p a bag to 58p ...... :|
Unless good amounts of rain hit the Eastern side of England from Lincolnshire down in the next few days there'll be few carrots, wonky or otherwise, around soon.
 

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Tesco: a single pint of semi-skimmed milk is now 85p. This represents the fourth price increase this year. It was 55p last November so a 55% rise. The two-pinters and four-pinters are much cheaper (per pint/litre) but don't fit in the freezer.

Went into the Co-op in Uphall on my way home this morning and it had shot up to 95P for a pint.

There's some profiteering going on here somewhere as the price of diesel has fallen quite dramatically over the last couple of weeks.

Ludicrously right next to the Co-op Pint for 95p was a Grahams 1 Litre for £1.15 :?:
 

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Went into the Co-op in Uphall on my way home this morning and it had shot up to 95P for a pint.

There's some profiteering going on here somewhere as the price of diesel has fallen quite dramatically over the last couple of weeks.
I would caution against swapping. Diesel in your tea is probably horrible
 

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I would caution against swapping. Diesel in your tea is probably horrible
Quite probably but these are desperate times.

Drink it: quench your thirst.
Ignite it: keep warm from the inside*.

*DO NOT ACTUALLY DO THIS!
 
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