Flying Scotsman 22/06/17

[DarloRich]

A question:

A collage of mine was in York yesterday and was very excited to see the "Flying Scotchman" in steam hauling a train. Was Flying Scotsman out and about yesterday? Did it haul the Scarborough Spa Express or was something else powering that train?

thanks!

 

[Adam0984]

From uksteam it looks like it was possibly Galatea on the Scarborough Spa Express

 

[D1009]

A question:

A collage of mine was in York yesterday and was very excited to see the "Flying Scotchman" in steam hauling a train. Was Flying Scotsman out and about yesterday? Did it haul the Scarborough Spa Express or was something else powering that train?

thanks!

Scotsman's next rostered duty is the Scarborough Flyer from Scarborough to Kings Cross tomorrow.

 

[Scarborough RS]

The DAVE TEAM at the NRM were cleaning 60103 for a private trip on Thursday that was cancelled due to dry weather. PM GALATEA was moved from the prep bay alongside in steam it may have looked as if Scotsman was in steam. Due to leave Scarborough at 08:10 Saturday Scarborough to Kings Cross via Lincoln

 

[DarloRich]

it must have been Galtea as the locomotive was spotted south of the station

 

[14xxDave]

I'm intrigued how you would mix them up?

 

[DarloRich]

I'm intrigued how you would mix them up?

someone who knows nothing about steam trains..................

 

[robbeech]

I can certainly confirm 45699 Galatea hauled that service with 37669 at the rear. I was on 1N81 and we passed it just south of York, it arrived into Platform 5 about 20 minutes afterwards..

Incidentally, OT, the 37 on the back said ETH index 0, I thought they were there to do that job.

 

[daikilo]

I can certainly confirm 45699 Galatea hauled that service with 37669 at the rear. I was on 1N81 and we passed it just south of York, it arrived into Platform 5 about 20 minutes afterwards..

Incidentally, OT, the 37 on the back said ETH index 0, I thought they were there to do that job.

Not neccessarily, the rear locomotive may be there for several reasons including simply a rescue unit. The 37/6s do not have ETH/ETS, but are wired to transmit ETH, as far as I am aware.

 

[robbeech]

There was a driver in it, and another member of crew and it was running (though that doesn't mean much of course)

 

[TimboM]

There was a driver in it, and another member of crew and it was running (though that doesn't mean much of course)

37669 regularly hauls passenger workings and was one of two (along with 668) installed with ERTMS/ETCS last year for operation west of Sutton Bridge Junction and Shrewsbury on the Cambrian Line in Wales.

I would be a bit surprised therefore if it doesn't have ETS/ETH capability? It's classed as a 37/5 I think if that makes any difference?

 

[matt]

Only 37/4s have ETH. The 37 in this case was partly there because of the fire risk.

 

[Cowley]

Only 37/4s have ETH. The 37 in this case was partly there because of the fire risk.

And also I don't think any 37s are through wired for ETS? As Matt says only the 37/4s had ETS.
31/4s also had ETS (ETH) and I think maybe 31/6s were through wired for ETS. Is that right does anyone know?

Edit - Don't most steam railtours have generator coaches for heating now? Would they run without them this time of year?