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Flight Tracking Services - Interesting Observations

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The arriving Atlantic storm is helping aircraft across the pond. Filtering aircraft by speed shows a few travelling in excess of 650 kts - 750mph. The 800 knots for a TAP A321 is an anomaly!

I feel some sympathy for passenger and crew on the two Ryanair flights today (STN-EDI and LUT-DUB) that ended up right back where they started from. Whether Ryanair did the right thing by not cancelling the flights to begin with..
 
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I'm not sure if this would be visible from the ground at 60,000 ft even on a clear day, but it's up there!

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United substituted a 757 for the usual 767 on UA934, landing at Heathrow a short while ago...

Should depart again at 08.00 tomorrow morning ( 6th April ) as UA883 if anyone wants to try to grab a photo of this rarity...

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Just saw a 747 flying fairly low (7,000 ft) over my house which was quite unusual. Had a look on Flightradar to see it was a Singapore Cargo en route from Sharjah in the Dubai urban area, to Heathrow.

What I found quite intriguing was the convoluted route it took through the Middle East, adding over 2 and a half hours to the direct route normally taken by passenger planes from Dubai.
 

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Just saw a 747 flying fairly low (7,000 ft) over my house which was quite unusual. Had a look on Flightradar to see it was a Singapore Cargo en route from Sharjah in the Dubai urban area, to Heathrow.

What I found quite intriguing was the convoluted route it took through the Middle East, adding over 2 and a half hours to the direct route normally taken by passenger planes from Dubai.

That path is to avoid Iranian airspace, and (it seems) Afghani airspace too, albeit the route has cut over the NE corner of Afghanistan once north of Kabul. I wonder if there was something on board the owners didn’t want any risk of the Iranians finding out about. However, odd that it didn’t fly over Saudi either!
 

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That path is to avoid Iranian airspace, and (it seems) Afghani airspace too, albeit the route has cut over the NE corner of Afghanistan once north of Kabul. I wonder if there was something on board the owners didn’t want any risk of the Iranians finding out about. However, odd that it didn’t fly over Saudi either!
Or it could be a more mundane flight planning issue. Airspace in and around the Gulf is pretty busy and a last minute flight plan submission possibly couldn't get slotted on any usual routing. Given the regional tensions it doesn't take much to force an unusual routing.
 

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Looks like another Singapore Airlines Cargo flight with the same origin and destination took a very similar routing last week.
 
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That path is to avoid Iranian airspace, and (it seems) Afghani airspace too, albeit the route has cut over the NE corner of Afghanistan once north of Kabul. I wonder if there was something on board the owners didn’t want any risk of the Iranians finding out about. However, odd that it didn’t fly over Saudi either!

Flights from the Gulf airports (UAE, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain etc etc), destined for Europe, usually fly up the Gulf, overfly Kuwait and Iraq, before entering Turkish airspace.
They don't usually overfly Iran, unless heading for Russia, or on Polar routes to North America.

This particular routing looks very odd, but looking at the FR24 playback, it has followed this route every Thursday since the beginning of April.
In March it also followed the same routing, but departing much earlier in the day.
It's a bit odd, as the usual alternative route from the Gulf to Europe, is via Saudi and Egyptian airspace.

There are certain cargo's that can cause a problem when it comes to overflying rights.
The most common issue that can limit access, is "Hazardous Cargo", which could include various things like munitions, Nuclear materials, high risk chemicals etc.
Certain military flights, or flights operated by civil operators on charter to military customers, require diplomatic clearance and this is sometimes a problem.
However, this just seems to be a regular scheduled cargo service, rather than a special one off, operating under a limitation of some sort.

It seems quite improbable that clearance to overfly Iraq or Kuwait would be an issue for Singapore Cargo, even if carrying such an unusual load.
As it's a regular routing, there has to be some regulatory reason limiting a more direct and economical flight plan?


[EDIT 26/04/25

SIA7934 is taking the same, extended routing today.
Departed Sharjah 0831 UTC

This routing appears to add approx. 3hrs 20 mins to the flying time.
That extra cost, especially as it's a regularly flown routing, must be considerable, so there must be a very valid reason for it? ]




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I’m at London Stansted and just saw a US Navy Grumman C2 Greyhound take-off, which looked cool enough in the early morning gloom. But, following it it may lead you to a US Navy carrier strike group as these are small transport aircraft that can land on aircraft carriers and deliver supplies/mail/personnel to the carriers.

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I’m at London Stansted and just saw a US Navy Grumman C2 Greyhound take-off, which looked cool enough in the early morning gloom. But, following it it may lead you to a US Navy carrier strike group as these are small transport aircraft that can land on aircraft carriers and deliver supplies/mail/personnel to the carriers.

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Ex COBRA WARRIOR is ongoing, there's all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff around, including Japanese Kawasaki transport airframes and assorted unusual US visitors.
 

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Ex COBRA WARRIOR is ongoing, there's all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff around, including Japanese Kawasaki transport airframes and assorted unusual US visitors.
It’s all up at Waddington not too far from me, had a couple of Canadian F18’s coming over a week or so ago.
 

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Saw a Spitfire doing a magnificent banking turn around St Albans this afternoon - on the app and IRL too!
Sounded terrific.
 

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Saw a Spitfire doing a magnificent banking turn around St Albans this afternoon - on the app and IRL too!
Sounded terrific.
Not sure if I should feel lucky being where I am, but it feels as though we’ve lost a lot round here. I’m very close to binbrook, Scampton has gone and the only proper front line stations are Waddington and Conningsby. Perhaps in wales it’s even more rare to see a spitfire these days.
 

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I was in Huddersfield last week and the Lancaster came flying over, it was doing a fly past over Elland.
 

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A Shorts Skyvan on the tracker today; from Brize Norton, flew over North East Lincolnshire and did a circuit over Hull, then back the way it came. Rare machine nowadays!
 

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I’m currently on the maritime frontier of Europe, so plenty of weird and wonderful aircraft in the area.



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A Shorts Skyvan on the tracker today; from Brize Norton, flew over North East Lincolnshire and did a circuit over Hull, then back the way it came. Rare machine nowadays!
I noticed that aircraft on the tracker during Trump's recent visit.
 

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Was just having a look on the ground at Stansted where l saw a Delta A350 in the private jet section having just landed from Baltimore BWI. lt doesn’t have one of their usual flight numbers. lf you track the plane back it started in Los Angeles two days ago before overnighting in Atlanta, stopping in Baltimore and then overnight onto London. Not sure what it’s doing but Los Angeles Rams are playing handegg at Wembley Stadium tomorrow so maybe it was carrying / picking up players or staff?
 

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Was just having a look on the ground at Stansted where l saw a Delta A350 in the private jet section having just landed from Baltimore BWI. lt doesn’t have one of their usual flight numbers. lf you track the plane back it started in Los Angeles two days ago before overnighting in Atlanta, stopping in Baltimore and then overnight onto London. Not sure what it’s doing but Los Angeles Rams are playing handegg at Wembley Stadium tomorrow so maybe it was carrying / picking up players or staff?
A quick Google suggests you are probably right; I couldn't check the details as the results are mostly on facebook, but there do seem to be charters involved.
 

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Loads of Rams fans on my flight from LAX to LHR yesterday (VS8). Fair play to them!
 

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Just saw this Cathay Pacific A350 fly quite low directly over me. Looks like it was on finals and pulled off quite sharply at the last moment, anyone know what happened? Never had this before, we often get planes flying over us when they’re landing from the other direction and they’ve done a go around.

As an aside, shows how great the A350s are, couldn’t hear a thing until it was directly over and even then it was really quiet given how low it was.
 

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Just saw this Cathay Pacific A350 fly quite low directly over me. Looks like it was on finals and pulled off quite sharply at the last moment, anyone know what happened? Never had this before, we often get planes flying over us when they’re landing from the other direction and they’ve done a go around.

As an aside, shows how great the A350s are, couldn’t hear a thing until it was directly over and even then it was really quiet given how low it was.
If you do a playback zoomed in on the airport and the point at which the go-around was initiated, you might be able to see if the previous aircraft was late vacating the runway or if it was something else?

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Just tried that myself, it looks like there was a loss of separation to TAP1356 ( CS-TVB ) which, yes, would have meant the runway would not have been cleared in time. Screenshot below.

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If you do a playback zoomed in on the airport and the point at which the go-around was initiated, you might be able to see if the previous aircraft was late vacating the runway or if it was something else?

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Just tried that myself, it looks like there was a loss of separation to TAP1356 ( CS-TVB ) which, yes, would have meant the runway would not have been cleared in time. Screenshot below.

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Seems an odd pattern for a go around though. Seen numerous go arounds of aircraft landing on 27R, and on the whole they continue to fly over the runway (at altitude obviously) before curving off to the right. Not seen one abruptly change course like that before.
 

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Seems an odd pattern for a go around though. Seen numerous go arounds of aircraft landing on 27R, and on the whole they continue to fly over the runway (at altitude obviously) before curving off to the right. Not seen one abruptly change course like that before.
Possible mitigation against TAP 1356 also having to go around for some reason? At the moment of my screenshot, the TAP was still at 350 feet so if that had also gone around they'd have got very close indeed if the Cathay had followed the standard pattern?
 

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Possible mitigation against TAP 1356 also having to go around for some reason? At the moment of my screenshot, the TAP was still at 350 feet so if that had also gone around they'd have got very close indeed if the Cathay had followed the standard pattern?
That’s a very good point and may well explain it
 

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