First Greater Glasgow

[Jordan Adam]

Half of the time they aren't even switched on or they just show "Ticketer" on the screen so you can't scan your card. There's even buses kicking about that don't even have them fitted! But to be honest, I wouldn't expect anything less from First Glasgow who seem to do a half arsed job at everything.

Never seems to be any issues with them up in Aberdeen.

 

[AilsaBus]

Never seems to be any issues with them up in Aberdeen.

Aberdeen must be the exception then...

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

37588 WX58 JWV has been painted into Ultraviolet out of it's Bristol City Blue colour

 

[Fletcj10]

37588 WX58 JWV has been painted into Ultraviolet out of it's Bristol City Blue colour

Not surprised, i mean how much would a repaint cost for such a old bus?

 

[hash2806]

37195 now withdrawn it seems. Marked SORN on the DVLA site

 

[LT02 NVV]

37195 now withdrawn it seems. Marked SORN on the DVLA site

37588 must be replacing it then.

 

[route101]

37195 now withdrawn it seems. Marked SORN on the DVLA site

Any 07 plates left in service.

 

[LT02 NVV]

Any 07 plates left in service.

37187, 37188, 37193, and 37196 (which I’m surprised hasn’t been taken out for scrap as 37196 has clear damage to the top front part that has been "fixed"). Even then, a few of them haven’t been out recently.

Also, 37588 is on the 75 right now, so they must of put it out as soon as 37195 was removed.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Think there’s only about 20 odd B9TLs left which is crazy considering how many Glasgow used to have.

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

37187, 37188, 37193, and 37196 (which I’m surprised hasn’t been taken out for scrap as 37196 has clear damage to the top front part that has been "fixed"). Even then, a few of them haven’t been out recently.

Also, 37588 is on the 75 right now, so they must of put it out as soon as 37195 was removed.

Not really a direct replacement for that particular one but here to keep things running as there's still a decker shortage, Still a few Gemini's waiting for repairs as well, 37549 that was out last week is back in waiting for another repair again, 37461 needs its derate problem fixed hence why that's been off the road for ages, There's still a good bit of book value left in these ones yet.

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Think there’s only about 20 odd B9TLs left which is crazy considering how many Glasgow used to have.

Still a lot considering the fleet is mostly ADL

 

[hash2806]

37187, 37188, 37193, and 37196 (which I’m surprised hasn’t been taken out for scrap as 37196 has clear damage to the top front part that has been "fixed"). Even then, a few of them haven’t been out recently.

Also, 37588 is on the 75 right now, so they must of put it out as soon as 37195 was removed.

That was rather quick..

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

That was rather quick..

They've had 37588 for a month it only done a few days of Commonwealth Games shuttles and then prepped for service here, 37195 was off the road for about 3 weeks previous, Was irrelevant to 37588 joining, It joined because it was spare from Bristol and Caley need more deckers, 37549 is back on the road again so there will be another Gemini from the repair pile in to get work done.

 

[hash2806]

They've had 37588 for a month it only done a few days of Commonwealth Games shuttles and then prepped for service here, 37195 was off the road for about 3 weeks previous, Was irrelevant to 37588 joining, It joined because it was spare from Bristol and Caley need more deckers, 37549 is back on the road again so there will be another Gemini from the repair pile in to get work done.

I see. It was rather quick in the fact from being painted to being out on the road, only took a day or two I think.. 37588 initially left Bristol for Sheffield with a handful of other Geminis (two have gone to Huddersfield since - 37590 and 37600). Following the chicanery with the York metrodeckers I was aware that it went to Bramley for a couple of weeks on loan from FSY then came up to assist with Commonwealth Games shuttles which by then was made a permanent transfer to Caley which I must say I was rather surprised about! Would have been rather meaningless it going back to Bristol as they’re gradually phasing out all their Gemini’s for repowers and such, I wonder if Caley will get some cascaded ones from down there? I’m fairly certain 37588 is the only WX58 painted into Ultraviolet, with the rest carrying Olympia and Citylines livery?

 

[YorkRailFan]

I see. It was rather quick in the fact from being painted to being out on the road, only took a day or two I think.. 37588 initially left Bristol for Sheffield with a handful of other Geminis (two have gone to Huddersfield since - 37590 and 37600). Following the chicanery with the York metrodeckers I was aware that it went to Bramley for a couple of weeks on loan from FSY then came up to assist with Commonwealth Games shuttles which by then was made a permanent transfer to Caley which I must say I was rather surprised about! Would have been rather meaningless it going back to Bristol as they’re gradually phasing out all their Gemini’s for repowers and such, I wonder if Caley will get some cascaded ones from down there? I’m fairly certain 37588 is the only WX58 painted into Ultraviolet, with the rest carrying Olympia and Citylines livery?

37588 didn't see service when in South Yorkshire however.

 

[hash2806]

37588 didn't see service when in South Yorkshire however.

Yes, it was the same with 37590/37600 wasn’t it? I initially thought 37588 would return to FSY once it was no longer required at Bramley but evidently not!

 

[YorkRailFan]

Yes, it was the same with 37590/37600 wasn’t it? I initially thought 37588 would return to FSY once it was no longer required at Bramley but evidently not!

Yes, those two were only in South Yorkshire temporarily and then were sent to Huddersfield to replace withdrawn 37295 & 37083. Although unlike 37588 haven't been repainted as of yet.

 

[Joerf21]

Can anybody tell me how many bus types scotstoun have, as number types of each bus please

 

[route101]

Seen SOS alarm on E300 in action last night when there was a fight on the bus.

 

[LT02 NVV]

63104 & 63110 are now at Dumbarton, so will Dumbarton be getting the rest of full-length Streetlites that were part of that group of buses that came up to Glasgow? (63041, 63099, 63105, 63109).

Also, what is even going on with 63272 at this point, like it’s been off the road for over a year (nearly 2) after being in service for a week on the 1 routes (before the removal of the 1B & 1D services).

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

X25s mostly all E400MMCs today

 

[LT02 NVV]

X25s mostly all E400MMCs today

Guess it’s back to normal again.

 

[Joerf21]

Any news when scotstouns outings will arrive

 

[Volvodart]

Any news when scotstouns outings will arrive

No one has said that any of the Scotzeb3 agreements have been signed, so they may not yet be ordered.

 

[Joerf21]

No one has said that any of the Scotzeb3 agreements have been signed, so they may not yet be ordered.

Was led to believe in the past chats, that they were due end of summer, autume

 

[trei2k]

I've been enjoying travelling on some of the repowers, the seating feels especially comfortable!

Two buses I took today had a scrolling screen with the date, time and West of England v. 2.something.

Will these fall into the usual First Glasgow position of bring neglected?

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

I've been enjoying travelling on some of the repowers, the seating feels especially comfortable!

Two buses I took today had a scrolling screen with the date, time and West of England v. 2.something.

Will these fall into the usual First Glasgow position of bring neglected?

The Cornwall deckers don't even have their side and rear displays working either

 

[smtglasgow]

You’ve got to love First and their ability to screw every last penny out of us. In amongst the news about the £2 fares, they’ve managed to hide some increases to the FirstDay and First Week tickets – City FirstDay goes up to £6.60 and the City FirstWeek is £28 – most other tickets are up as well. I’m old enough to remember them going up in January – 9 months between increases seems cheeky/greedy/shameless.

My other thought about the £2 fares is capacity. First have been running the bare minimum service on most corridors since Covid. It’s done wonders for their profitability, but the buses are already overwhelmed at busy times so where are any extra passengers going to go?

Also, are First short of drivers? I don’t use buses every day, but the last few times I’ve been on the bus, at least one bus hasn’t appeared, and I keep seeing odd short turns (2/3 to Scotstoun; 267 to Blantyre) which suggests there isn’t a driver to take over.

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

You’ve got to love First and their ability to screw every last penny out of us. In amongst the news about the £2 fares, they’ve managed to hide some increases to the FirstDay and First Week tickets – City FirstDay goes up to £6.60 and the City FirstWeek is £28 – most other tickets are up as well. I’m old enough to remember them going up in January – 9 months between increases seems cheeky/greedy/shameless.

My other thought about the £2 fares is capacity. First have been running the bare minimum service on most corridors since Covid. It’s done wonders for their profitability, but the buses are already overwhelmed at busy times so where are any extra passengers going to go?

Also, are First short of drivers? I don’t use buses every day, but the last few times I’ve been on the bus, at least one bus hasn’t appeared, and I keep seeing odd short turns (2/3 to Scotstoun; 267 to Blantyre) which suggests there isn’t a driver to take over.

Seen that on the Website this morning

 

[route101]

Came across a paper timetable ( remember them?) for X2 service from 2019 to Robroyston. I forgot about this service.