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By I see Jmb going up to Eddlewood

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Meant to say I see JMB going to eddlewood. They definitely want to expand in Lanarkshire
 

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Meant to say I see JMB going to eddlewood. They definitely want to expand in Lanarkshire
JMB have done a lot of improvements in Lanarkshire and First have just more or less copied their routes to try muscle them out. I get JMB don't have the fleet like first but the fleet they have are far superior to Firsts. Would love to see JMB target Overtown and target the X11
 

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It will be interesting now will First go back and do the X1. I just wonder as heard a lot of rumours that there thinking about it
 
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Supposedly one of the old Bristol Air Deckers will be joining the fleet next week E400MMC YX23 OWJ 34420, Seen the fleet manager mentioning it under the picture of the 2 Streetlites that came up from there at the weekend
 
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What type of bus is that?
A 9 year old ex Kernow Enviro 400 MMC. Formerly one of the Tinner ones I believe.

I stick "Parent Company Fleetnumber" into Google Image search when ever I am curious.

So in this case First Bus 33462.

Note: Other search engines are available
 
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It will be interesting now will First go back and do the X1. I just wonder as heard a lot of rumours that there thinking about it
If that’s true then First have got their priorities all wrong. They really need to fix their entire network of timetables, and I don’t mean taking a blank canvas to it, but it’s been turned into a dog’s dinner during the past 12 to 18 months.

Whilst they cannot be held accountable with regards to the current state of the city centre, the very long term closure of Phoenix Road under the M8 at Cowcaddens and the volume of roadworks/temporary road traffic orders popping up but it does seem since the introduction of AI timetables, they have been implementing changes on a route-by-route basis and abandoned the concept of frequent corridor intervals as a result.

If you check Maryhill Road for example, which is one of the busiest corridors in Glasgow, First historically scheduled journeys to run up to every 5 minutes with some intervals as low as every 8 minutes but there are now some gaps of every 12 minutes which no doubt will have benefited West Coast Motors and Midland Bluebird.

Also the 1/1A/1C don’t coordinate well at various times the of day from Scotstoun to Osborne Street.

The 87/88 on the Buchanan Bus Station to Springburn corridor in the evenings traditionally provided a combined every 15 minutes frequency but now there are journeys departing the bus station within 3-5 minutes followed by a large gap of up to 25 minutes.

These are just some observations but I’m sure there are numerous other similar examples throughout the network.
 
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If that’s true then First have got their priorities all wrong. They really need to fix their entire network of timetables, and I don’t mean taking a blank canvas to it, but it’s been turned into a dog’s dinner during the past 12 to 18 months.

Whilst they cannot be held accountable with regards to the current state of the city centre, the very long term closure of Phoenix Road under the M8 at Cowcaddens and the volume of roadworks/temporary road traffic orders popping up but it does seem since the introduction of AI timetables, they have been implementing changes on a route-by-route basis and abandoned the concept of frequent corridor intervals as a result.

If you check Maryhill Road for example, which is one of the busiest corridors in Glasgow, First historically scheduled journeys to run up to every 5 minutes with some intervals as low as every 8 minutes but there are now some gaps of every 12 minutes which no doubt will have benefited West Coast Motors and Midland Bluebird.

Also the 1/1A/1C don’t coordinate well at various times the of day from Scotstoun to Osborne Street.

The 87/88 on the Buchanan Bus Station to Springburn corridor in the evenings traditionally provided a combined every 15 minutes frequency but now there are journeys departing the bus station within 3-5 minutes followed by a large gap of up to 25 minutes.

These are just some observations but I’m sure there are numerous other similar examples throughout the network.
Bus services along London Road are much the same, and even worse since the 18/18A split was created with AI... Below from 20 minutes ago.
 

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Bus services along London Road are much the same, and even worse since the 18/18A split was created with AI... Below from 20 minutes ago.
And the services that were every 30 minutes are not every 30 minutes anymore.

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07 plate Volvo B9TL Gemini's
I remember when they were new on the 75 and 44. I always preffered the smoother B7TLs.

When was the last B7TL retired?
 

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And the services that were every 30 minutes are not every 30 minutes anymore.

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I remember when they were new on the 75 and 44. I always preffered the smoother B7TLs.

When was the last B7TL retired?
End of 2023
 

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Has first printed anything for the Lanarkshire changes? I've heard talk but I've not seen anything as of yet.
 

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Has first printed anything for the Lanarkshire changes? I've heard talk but I've not seen anything as of yet.
A5 leaflet posted to addresses in Lanarkshire showing changes. Will be surprised if any timetables or network maps are printed. Last printed timetable must of been 2019.
 

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How's the X44 fairing against the X5? I did see the X44 around 7pm leave Glasgow empty. Anyone know if the other buses are busier?
 

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Just noticed on the Envevo website it has Blantyre down in latest projects in Glasgow: Latest Projects In Glasgow

Does anyone have any insight in if there is currently electrification work planned for Blantyre?
 

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How's the X44 fairing against the X5? I did see the X44 around 7pm leave Glasgow empty. Anyone know if the other buses are busier?
If my X44 didn't get cancelled yesterday then I probably would have known

Appears it hasn't started as the most reliable service since I don't know what is causing it but all of them are turning up at least 10 minutes late and there was an E200MMC on it yesterday as well.
 

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If my X44 didn't get cancelled yesterday then I probably would have known

Appears it hasn't started as the most reliable service since I don't know what is causing it but all of them are turning up at least 10 minutes late and there was an E200MMC on it yesterday as well.
There is usually a single decker on the X11 at peak time, perhaps interworking with X44
 

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How's the X44 fairing against the X5? I did see the X44 around 7pm leave Glasgow empty. Anyone know if the other buses are busier?
It passes my door about 2 miles from the start of the route. Most I’ve seen on ones heading towards Glasgow is 5 people, ones passing on way to Newarthill one or two people. A mate got one into town this morning and said there was 17 people on it by Glasgow.

I don’t think it really competes with X5 as once they leave Newarthill they go completely different routes.
 
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If my X44 didn't get cancelled yesterday then I probably would have known

Appears it hasn't started as the most reliable service since I don't know what is causing it but all of them are turning up at least 10 minutes late and there was an E200MMC on it yesterday as well.
Always ends up late getting into Buchanan Bus Station on the X11, Putting a single decker on a peak run is baffling
 
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Former RATP Air Decker 34420 YX23OWJ has Transferred to Glasgow and is currently in Caledonia.
I mentioned this earlier on in the thread, Fleet manager confirmed it last week, Nice bus too, I've had a hurl on it in Bristol a couple of years ago, Been sat for a couple of months doing nothing pretty much, nice wee addition to the fleet
 

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