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[AndrewTaylor95]

I have been sent a photo of the fleet displacement sheet that purports to come from Kernow staff. There is NOTHING labelled for Glasgow on the sheet.
There are however, 11 e400MMC, 6 Solos and the 4 Ilesbus "Mousehole Minibuses", that currently have no new home marked against them.

I have also been told Glasgow must be due something as staff are reportedly being picked up by a "King Coach from Aberdeen" to head south at the weekend.

Surely they should be for us then, Would Imagine the Mousehole Mercs will go to Kings Coaches

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

I have been sent a photo of the fleet displacement sheet that purports to come from Kernow staff. There is NOTHING labelled for Glasgow on the sheet.
There are however, 11 e400MMC, 6 Solos and the 4 Ilesbus "Mousehole Minibuses", that currently have no new home marked against them.

I have also been told Glasgow must be due something as staff are reportedly being picked up by a "King Coach from Aberdeen" to head south at the weekend.

11 MMC’s doesn’t really solve the shortage? That would surely just cover the X25/X25A?

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

11 MMC’s doesn’t really solve the shortage? That would surely just cover the X25/X25A?

Regardless the X25/X25A still needs covered

 

[JumpinTrainz]

33394 now tracking on the 5. Not sure if this is the beginning of Scotstoun’s E400MMC transferring to Caledonia in place of repowers or if just covering as Caledonia is short.

 

[ScotRail158725]

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I have been sent a photo of the fleet displacement sheet that purports to come from Kernow staff. There is NOTHING labelled for Glasgow on the sheet.
There are however, 11 e400MMC, 6 Solos and the 4 Ilesbus "Mousehole Minibuses", that currently have no new home marked against them.

I have also been told Glasgow must be due something as staff are reportedly being picked up by a "King Coach from Aberdeen" to head south at the weekend.

The 6 solos are meant to be coming up here

 

[Metal Mickey]

11 MMC’s doesn’t really solve the shortage? That would surely just cover the X25/X25A?

Is there a vehicle shortage just now?

 

[YorkRailFan]

Cross-posting from the West Yorkshire thread as Streetlite 47596 has transferred from Glasgow to Halifax although it never tracked in Glasgow.

 

[alan25]

No because there's a shortage, need the extra vehicles to operate the X25/X25A, Not concrete yet if we will be getting any of the deckers

Wdym?
Last time I checked the X25/A was a stagecoach route….
Context???

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Wdym?
Last time I checked the X25/A was a stagecoach route….
Context???

If you read a few of the previous pages this will tell you. First are taking over the X25/X25A in April. Cumbernauld Depot is closing.

 

[alan25]

If you read a few of the previous pages this will tell you. First are taking over the X25/X25A in April. Cumbernauld Depot is closing.

Cheers For the summary!

 

[camro]

I have been sent a photo of the fleet displacement sheet that purports to come from Kernow staff. There is NOTHING labelled for Glasgow on the sheet.
There are however, 11 e400MMC, 6 Solos and the 4 Ilesbus "Mousehole Minibuses", that currently have no new home marked against them.

I have also been told Glasgow must be due something as staff are reportedly being picked up by a "King Coach from Aberdeen" to head south at the weekend.

What were the MMC fleet numbers? I just assumed we were getting all of one of the two batches

 

[Dfatcontroller]

What were the MMC fleet numbers? I just assumed we were getting all of one of the two batches

33450 / 33452 / 33453 / 33455-33462.

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Surely they should be for us then, Would Imagine the Mousehole Mercs will go to Kings Coaches

Perhaps the Mousehole Mercs could be used on the recent SPT wins?

 

[route101]

Noticed a repower decker sitting in Blantyre depot.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Surely they should be for us then, Would Imagine the Mousehole Mercs will go to Kings Coaches

I'd doubt that, they were already talking about getting rid of one of the existing Mercs last year as they don't see much use. That said it doesn't help that the existing pair are both manual so not all drivers can drive them.

I believe the 73 plate Tourismo (24212) is destined for King Coaches however replacing the large Sunsundegui (20812).

 

[Volvodart]

I'd doubt that, they were already talking about getting rid of one of the existing Mercs last year as they don't see much use. That said it doesn't help that the existing pair are both manual so not all drivers can drive them.

One is often used for route training, but the trainer drives it. I wondered why the new drivers did not drive it like when service buses are used.

 

[Whiteway215]

I'd doubt that, they were already talking about getting rid of one of the existing Mercs last year as they don't see much use. That said it doesn't help that the existing pair are both manual so not all drivers can drive them.

I believe the 73 plate Tourismo (24212) is destined for King Coaches however replacing the large Sunsundegui (20812).

20812 reregistered BF63HEV from PSU628 on DVLA.

 

[Volvodart]

20812 reregistered BF63HEV from PSU628 on DVLA.

It also carries that today.

 

[LT02 NVV]

I think the random Gemini withdrawals aren’t helping at the moment with the fleet shortages.

Like sometimes you get one withdrawn for a while, only to have it go back in service, like 37225 for example, which has been put back in service to replace one of the Ex-Manchester Geminis being withdrawn.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

I think the random Gemini withdrawals aren’t helping at the moment with the fleet shortages.

Like sometimes you get one withdrawn for a while, only to have it go back in service, like 37225 for example, which has been put back in service to replace one of the Ex-Manchester Geminis being withdrawn.

I'd imagine that it had a unit failure whilst the ex Manc one probably had some more terminal (like corrosion). The Geminis are on notice but guess it depends on the results of ScotZEB3

 

[Metal Mickey]

I think the random Gemini withdrawals aren’t helping at the moment with the fleet shortages.

Where has it been said there’s a fleet shortage?

 

[ScotRail158725]

Where has it been said there’s a fleet shortage?

The fact caledonia is short of about 15 buses and has constant loan ins from other garages

 

[Tim33160]

There is a planned movement of buses from Cornwall on Sunday to head north to Glasgow.

A team of drivers are travelling south on Saturday to collect 18 vehicles and drive them north to Glasgow –
they are 11 ADL E400 MMC’s 33450/452/3/5-562, 6 Optare Solo SR’s 53255/7/8,53862/4/5 and one Mercedes Tourismo coach 24212.
They are being collected from Summercourt on Sunday, with an overnight stop at Adderley Green.

 

[stuart81]

The fact caledonia is short of about 15 buses and has constant loan ins from other garages

Where has this figure come from? Any large group will move vehicles between depots as it needs to?

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Where has it been said there’s a fleet shortage?

Been short for well over a year

 

[stuart81]

Been short for well over a year

I think what people are asking for (expecting?) is some solid evidence of this

 

[Metal Mickey]

Been short for well over a year

Is this just hearsay?

 

[camro]

There is a planned movement of buses from Cornwall on Sunday to head north to Glasgow.

A team of drivers are travelling south on Saturday to collect 18 vehicles and drive them north to Glasgow –
they are 11 ADL E400 MMC’s 33450/452/3/5-562, 6 Optare Solo SR’s 53255/7/8,53862/4/5 and one Mercedes Tourismo coach 24212.
They are being collected from Summercourt on Sunday, with an overnight stop at Adderley Green.

Seems like most plausible fleet numbers so far, thank you

Looking at photos, the WK66 batch seem to be full height, which means we won't see them on the 60/A or the 61.

11 MMCs will fully cover the X25/A. Interesting that select Ultraviolet examples were retained, maybe the interiors are not suitable for Glasgow?

 

[ScotRail158725]

Where has this figure come from? Any large group will move vehicles between depots as it needs to?

From the vehicle allocations thats where ifs come from? As i just said theres currently around 15 or so vehicles at Caledonia loaned from other garages to cover for a lack of vehicles there

Is this just hearsay?

No its fact

 

[stuart81]

Unless you work for First, how would you know about the allocations?

 

[ScotRail158725]

Unless you work for First, how would you know about the allocations?

How do you know otherwise about the allocations? do you work for first?