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Thank you, just thinking with a huge number of old E300s, its going to be difficult to replace them
The oldest R300s are Mid 2012. So given that First Glasgow expect 17 years of life will be Mid 2029 before they considera replacement. Some older non E300s. due before then of course.

Probably a mixture of E200evs and E400ev would be a sensible choice.
 
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The oldest R300s are Mid 2012. So given that First Glasgow expect 17 years of life will be Mid 2029 before they considera replacement. Some older non E300s. due before then of course.

Probably a mixture of E200evs and E400ev would be a sensible choice.
What 17 years from a E300, cant imagining that hapening
 

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I would be very surprised if nothing is on order, the Commonwealth games are coming to Glasgow next year.
 

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I would be very surprised if nothing is on order, the Commonwealth games are coming to Glasgow next year.
This is First we’re talking about. They won’t order new buses without Grants from the Government.

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They havent bought any buses for the commonwealth games next year so how can they still be in service?!
The poster has probably got confused with the previous Commonwealth Games in 2014.
 

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I was at the unveiling of some of the the ADL fleet in 2014 to be used in the city - the 2026 ‘cheap’ games don’t need to repeat this level of investment (as the organisers most certainly aren’t).
 

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First ordered lots of new buses for the Commonwealth Games then they all got sent South once they ended in true First fashion :lol:
 
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First ordered lots of new buses for the Commonwealth Games then they all got sent South once they ended in true First fashion :lol:
The majority of the new stuff should've stayed here it was much needed at that time instead we ended up with Streetlites and they where before the games even started back in May 2014, Wouldn't of minded some brand new E400s at the time
 

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After the 2012 Olympics Parkhead was to get new E400s along with Tridents.. The E400s were to be for the 61 service and a change in management changed for that order to go south and Glasgow to receive new E300s instead.
 
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After the 2012 Olympics Parkhead was to get new E400s along with Tridents.. The E400s were to be for the 61 service and a change in management changed for that order to go south and Glasgow to receive new E300s instead.
The E300s where the Newest buses till the Streetlites came
 

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The majority of the new stuff should've stayed here it was much needed at that time instead we ended up with Streetlites and they where before the games even started back in May 2014, Wouldn't of minded some brand new E400s at the time
Agreed Glasgow was in desperate need of new buses at this point. Not keeping a single new bus from the games was ridiculous.

After the 2012 Olympics Parkhead was to get new E400s along with Tridents.. The E400s were to be for the 61 service and a change in management changed for that order to go south and Glasgow to receive new E300s instead.
Instead the 61 got a mix of 10 year old ex-London tridents and B7TLs with thread bare seats. It took until 2021 for the 61 to get new buses.
 

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The 61 did become mainly B7TLs once the Simplicity network started. In 2018 it did get refurbished B9TLs. Once the new E400EVs entered service it has its main allocation as EVs with some E400 MMCs on all day boards. Nearly all the ex Parkhead routes appear to EV workings.
 

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First ordered lots of new buses for the Commonwealth Games then they all got sent South once they ended in true First fashion :lol:
Let’s not confuse things…

With the Commonwealth Games fleet, it was ALWAYS the reality that the vehicles were ordered for elsewhere but were only on loan for the Games. Many of the e400 were purchased for the Finglands operation in Manchester.
 

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Let’s not confuse things…

With the Commonwealth Games fleet, it was ALWAYS the reality that the vehicles were ordered for elsewhere but were only on loan for the Games. Many of the e400 were purchased for the Finglands operation in Manchester.
It’s not confusing anything. Regardless if it was announced beforehand it was disappointing that Glasgow didn’t get to keep any of the many E400s that were deployed to our city for our Commonwealth Games. Especially given Glasgow had a lot of old deckers at that point.

The 61 did become mainly B7TLs once the Simplicity network started. In 2018 it did get refurbished B9TLs. Once the new E400EVs entered service it has its main allocation as EVs with some E400 MMCs on all day boards. Nearly all the ex Parkhead routes appear to EV workings.
The 60 still sees quite a mixed bag. It sees EVs but also a lot of diesels and whatever is in the depot really. I saw an E300 on the 60 the other day.
 

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It’s not confusing anything. Regardless if it was announced beforehand it was disappointing that Glasgow didn’t get to keep any of the many E400s that were deployed to our city for our Commonwealth Games. Especially given Glasgow had a lot of old deckers at that point.
No - they weren’t your deckers at any point (they were loans to Games Trandprt) and they were always destined to head to the former Finglands operation as they didn’t acquire the fleet just the ops.

The B7Ls that went to Manchester for the 2002 Commonwealth Games were similarly just loaned there (to FGT) before heading to their true homes.

Oh, and everywhere had old deckers at that time :lol:
 

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It’s not confusing anything. Regardless if it was announced beforehand it was disappointing that Glasgow didn’t get to keep any of the many E400s that were deployed to our city for our Commonwealth Games. Especially given Glasgow had a lot of old deckers at that point.


The 60 still sees quite a mixed bag. It sees EVs but also a lot of diesels and whatever is in the depot really. I saw an E300 on the 60 the other day.
At one time the 60 daytime was mostly EVs. However more E400MMCs and E300s too. Perhaps there is a shortage of E400evs for now. There were odd E200evs. Perhaps that's where the E300s come in for now.
 

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The revised timetables from 18th January are now on the First Glasgow website.

The 77 is to run hourly during the night on every night of the week from Buchanan Bus Station to QEUH.

All other changes are nothing to get excited about and in true First style these days they’re still persisting with complex AI designed timetables.
 

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The revised timetables from 18th January are now on the First Glasgow website.

The 77 is to run hourly during the night on every night of the week from Buchanan Bus Station to QEUH.

All other changes are nothing to get excited about and in true First style these days they’re still persisting with complex AI designed timetables.
Interesting, I wonder if it will be branded as a nightbus.
 
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Interesting, I wonder if it will be branded as a nightbus.
Won't be as the number is staying as a 77 it's just a round the clock service like they where years ago in the Overground days.

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The revised timetables from 18th January are now on the First Glasgow website.

The 77 is to run hourly during the night on every night of the week from Buchanan Bus Station to QEUH.

All other changes are nothing to get excited about and in true First style these days they’re still persisting with complex AI designed timetables.
As I stated earlier in this forum
 

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Won't be as the number is staying as a 77 it's just a round the clock service like they where years ago in the Overground days.

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As I stated earlier in this forum
I wonder what has brought the night 77, is it a trial perhaps?

Yes, one of my annoyances with First is they no longer do proper PDF timetables anymore.
 

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I wonder what has brought the night 77, is it a trial perhaps?
The City to Partick corridor was left without a night service when First withdrew the majority of their N services in 2023 and McGill’s didn’t replace it so at least it’s returning on a better frequency and operating every night of the week but it will be interesting to see if it lasts.
 

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I wonder what has brought the night 77, is it a trial perhaps?

Yes, one of my annoyances with First is they no longer do proper PDF timetables anymore.
It’s the perfect route for a trial, as it runs between the City Centre and the QEUH, meaning it would benefit late night hospital staff workers getting to and from work.
 

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Was on 71047 today in theory heading for Baillieston. However the display said Cribbs Causeway.

A quick bit of detective work on Google seems to think it's a Bristol Shopping Centre.

Doubtful the battery would be capable of getting there without some charging on the way.

Must be said the screens on front, side and rear, As well as the interior screens were working. Just showing the completely wrong destination

No signs of any vibration in traffic on this one. So perhaps any problem has been identified and rectified
Was on 71046 today heading for in theory Baillieston. 6 weeks later than last reported the internal screens are still showing the famous Cribbs Causeway destination in Bristol Quite a few drivers just leave the internal displays switched off to limit the amount of questions where???? Along with the admission that nobody seems to know or bother how to sort the problem.
It's not really rocket science just a bit of embarrassment that they get out the depot with such quality showing.
 

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Was on 71046 today heading for in theory Baillieston. 6 weeks later than last reported the internal screens are still showing the famous Cribbs Causeway destination in Bristol Quite a few drivers just leave the internal displays switched off to limit the amount of questions where???? Along with the admission that nobody seems to know or bother how to sort the problem.
It's not really rocket science just a bit of embarrassment that they get out the depot with such quality showing.
I’d guess that it’s down to not having enough staff to fix these issues therefore the priority will always be to run the mileage irrespective of faulty on-board screens.
 
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Asking in this thread as thought it was the best place to ask.

I thought I saw 2 Citylink liveried coaches in Caledonia from M74 today, are these the Hairy Haggis GTe14s and if so does anyone know how long they have been in Caledonia for?
 
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Asking in this thread as thought it was the best place to ask.

I thought I saw 2 Citylink liveried coaches in Caledonia from M74 today, are these the Hairy Haggis GTe14s and if so does anyone know how long they have been in Caledonia for?

They are the two Hairy Haggis tri-axle Citylink livery Yutongs. They've been there since early December. First sighting I know of was 3rd December.
 

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I hadn’t realised that about 11 E200EVs are still out of service since last year. Does anyone know where they are and what the issue is with them? One of them was repainted.
 

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