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an important step towards considering the final investment decision on the project to deliver phase one of a scalable green hydrogen production, storage, and distribution facility in Aberdeen.
Wasn’t Aberdeen suppose to get 12 or 15 Enviro 400 buses from Manchester again?
Why are there only 6 of them again?
Aberdeen clearly need more buses, as the Hydrogen pumps keep failing, and they only have a few buses to replace them right now, which leads to First Glasgow buses being sent up on loan (excluding the low-height E400s, which have been sent there to replace the E500s).
Wasn’t Aberdeen suppose to get 12 or 15 Enviro 400 buses from Manchester again?
Why are there only 6 of them again?
Aberdeen clearly need more buses, as the Hydrogen pumps keep failing, and they only have a few buses to replace them right now, which leads to First Glasgow buses being sent up on loan (excluding the low-height E400s, which have been sent there to replace the E500s).
The 9 additional Enviro400s from Manchester would directly replace the 9 Citaros so it wouldn't really make any difference to the situation. At least the Manchester Enviro400s seem more reliable than their Glasgow counterparts.
Even without the Hydrogen pump issues Aberdeen have frequently been struggling to make service for the past two years, the issue is more to do with the fleet size when compared to the peak vehicle requirement. The Hydrogen pump failing just add to it.
The only good thing (i suppose) is that reliability and availability of the Ex-Glasgow Enviro300s does seem to be better than the Streetlites they replaced.
Why are they replacing all of these busses when they’re struggling to meet the current fleet requirements? Surely it would be more beneficial to them to keep the bendys or some of the E500s and bring in the additional E400s as well. Is space an issue in the depot? Is it purely financial?
Why are they replacing all of these busses when they’re struggling to meet the current fleet requirements? Surely it would be more beneficial to them to keep the bendys or some of the E500s and bring in the additional E400s as well. Is space an issue in the depot? Is it purely financial?
It is peculiar that they do such poorly on fuel economy, The latest Volvo B8L tri-axles across the country are doing quite abit better fuel economy wise according to ZEMO even in an urban environment, their age and the fact they have 5.12 rear diff ratios is simply contributing to this let alone their weight.
The latest Volvo B8L have a 6.20 rear axle fitted which reduced the need for the engine to put in quite as much effort, however, this also means their engines are resting a quite high revs whilst cruising..
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The 9 additional Enviro400s from Manchester would directly replace the 9 Citaros so it wouldn't really make any difference to the situation. At least the Manchester Enviro400s seem more reliable than their Glasgow counterparts.
Even without the Hydrogen pump issues Aberdeen have frequently been struggling to make service for the past two years, the issue is more to do with the fleet size when compared to the peak vehicle requirement. The Hydrogen pump failing just add to it.
The only good thing (i suppose) is that reliability and availability of the Ex-Glasgow Enviro300s does seem to be better than the Streetlites they replaced.
Agreed. Although in their final year reliability of the B7RLEs dropped a fair bit. The Yutongs have really proven themselves though, it's a shame there isn't more.
What doesn't help either is poor vehicle allocations. For example today there's a football match on at Pittodrie therefor you'd expect the highest capacity vehicles on the 1, 1B, 2 and 13. Yet for some bizzare reason the morning controller has decided to put single deckers on the 1/2 meanwhile deckers are on the 3/3A, 12, 17/18 and 23. This seems to happen pretty much every time theres a football match on a Saturday.... you really couldn't make it up!
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38205, 38219 and 38223 remain at King Street Depot.
"All the ones " (11111) has also been withdrawn as a parts donor to the rest of the batch. Unusual that they've chosen that one given its one of the better more reliable Citaros. You would've thought 11106 would've been first pick for withdrawal given it has rarely seen much service of late.
“All the ones " (11111) has also been withdrawn as a parts donor to the rest of the batch. Unusual that they've chosen that one given its one of the better more reliable Citaros. You would've thought 11106 would've been first pick for withdrawal given it has rarely seen much service of late.
The final ex Oldham E400, 33703, has finally been repainted in the green Aberdeen livery. The only difference is that there are no First plus logo on the sides
The final ex Oldham E400, 33703, has finally been repainted in the green Aberdeen livery. The only difference is that there are no First plus logo on the sides
You would have thought that it would’ve been repainted into the new livery unless the painting had already started prior to the new livery being introduced?
i would presume they would be repainted when required, seems like a waste of paint to repaint only a few years old vehicle, also only in the last few months almost all of the buses at Aberdeen are in the Aberdeen livery, would be better for customers to keep the same livery until new vehicles get delivered and older ones get sold / cascaded to other depots.
i would presume they would be repainted when required, seems like a waste of paint to repaint only a few years old vehicle, also only in the last few months almost all of the buses at Aberdeen are in the Aberdeen livery, would be better for customers to keep the same livery until new vehicles get delivered and older ones get sold / cascaded to other depots.
They have repainted one of the 71 plate e400EVs so no guarantee though, I agree with you, it would make sense not to be repainting nearly new vehicles that are in the "right" colours when there are more deserving recipients.
They have repainted one of the 71 plate e400EVs so no guarantee though, I agree with you, it would make sense not to be repainting nearly new vehicles that are in the "right" colours when there are more deserving recipients.
The 71 plate e400E may have required a repaint after accident damage or similar. Something that required a repaint.
Aberdeen's fleet is generally devoid of route branding so less likely to warrant an additional repaint.
Most (not all) of Glasgow's repaints have been route branded vehicles being relieved of their route branding.
The 71 plate e400E may have required a repaint after accident damage or similar. Something that required a repaint.
Aberdeen's fleet is generally devoid of route branding so less likely to warrant an additional repaint.
Most (not all) of Glasgow's repaints have been route branded vehicles being relieved of their route branding.
Debranding the Streetdecks would be a good idea but they would require being towed to Glasgow for repaint. I think the Yutongs being fairly new they’ll probably be done sooner than we think.
The 71 plate e400E may have required a repaint after accident damage or similar. Something that required a repaint.
Aberdeen's fleet is generally devoid of route branding so less likely to warrant an additional repaint.
Most (not all) of Glasgow's repaints have been route branded vehicles being relieved of their route branding.
Saw an Aberdeen bus in Cambridge 2/3 days ago, just parked on the side of the road. It had all branding stripped except for the 'Aberdeen' sign. Does anybody have any idea why? Could it be a bus that was sold off to some private firm which happened to have been in Cambridge earlier this week?
From August 2023 to May 2024, all 25 Enviro500s were gradually withdrawn from Kernow and Aberdeen. Most are now with Cambridge Buses[15] for school services, having arrived there via Ensignbus.
I did some googling and the Wikipedia article does indeed state the following: (could only put the 'quote' text above due formatting problems)
As it was in the afternoon that I saw it, I'd assume it was just a not in service school bus then.
Most of the recent ones were done at First Glasgow, either by the bus going down or just the seats going down. They had a local contractor to do the fabric seats. Some of the "leather" seats just have the vinyl not the pattern on them. so they may have been done locally too. The ones reseated in Glasgow recently would have had their internal poles repainted, but the first ones done did not get this.
First Aberdeen is now tracking on bustimes.org. Strange given how it never did in the past but its good they finally started physically tracking on the map
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) is on it being purely financial - E500s drink fuel and the bendys aren't light on it either.
