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Finishing short on Single and Return tickets

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Hello

Having had a conversation with a friend this evening, the following came up:

He said that a couple of years ago (or thereabouts, I don't know exactly, though others with previous copies of NFM may be able to see) if travelling from any station on the Airedale Line (stations between Leeds and Skipton) into Leeds itself, it was cheaper to buy a ticket to Crossgates instead (on the line to York, so necessary to travel through Leeds, changing trains there).

Using Keighley as an example origin station, I'm not sure if he was referring to a Keighley - Crossgates SINGLE being cheaper than Keighley - Leeds SINGLE (at the time), or if he meant that a Keighley - Crossgates RETURN was cheaper than Keighley - Leeds RETURN -this fares anomaly has subsequently been closed, so I've no way of checking.

My question comes in that he said he knew of people buying the Keighley - Crossgates ticket, but finishing short in Leeds to take advantage of the fares anomaly. This would be with either a standard day single or day return ticket (not sure which, as above). He believes that people were stopped at Leeds barriers and told that doing this wasn't valid.

Is anyone able to confirm if stopping short in the above instance would be valid, taking into account that I'm unsure if it was a single or a return ticket that was held?
 
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Hello

Having had a conversation with a friend this evening, the following came up:

He said that a couple of years ago (or thereabouts, I don't know exactly, though others with previous copies of NFM may be able to see) if travelling from any station on the Airedale Line (stations between Leeds and Skipton) into Leeds itself, it was cheaper to buy a ticket to Crossgates instead (on the line to York, so necessary to travel through Leeds, changing trains there).

Using Keighley as an example origin station, I'm not sure if he was referring to a Keighley - Crossgates SINGLE being cheaper than Keighley - Leeds SINGLE (at the time), or if he meant that a Keighley - Crossgates RETURN was cheaper than Keighley - Leeds RETURN -this fares anomaly has subsequently been closed, so I've no way of checking.

My question comes in that he said he knew of people buying the Keighley - Crossgates ticket, but finishing short in Leeds to take advantage of the fares anomaly. This would be with either a standard day single or day return ticket (not sure which, as above). He believes that people were stopped at Leeds barriers and told that doing this wasn't valid.

Is anyone able to confirm if stopping short in the above instance would be valid, taking into account that I'm unsure if it was a single or a return ticket that was held?

Break of journey restrictions generally only apply to Off Peak tickets. Even then, it would have to be forbidden specificallly by way of the wording in the restriction code, which can be checked on the National Rail website. I can't see anything in the current restriction text that forbids break of journey so it's likely the barrier staff were talking nonsense.
 

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Thanks for that.

Unfortunately my friend thinks (based on what he heard above) that finishing short is generally not permitted on ANY journey, whereas I thought it was generally permitted on tickets that allow break of journey.

Am I right in thinking that?
 

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Thanks for that.

Unfortunately my friend thinks (based on what he heard above) that finishing short is generally not permitted on ANY journey, whereas I thought it was generally permitted on tickets that allow break of journey.

Am I right in thinking that?

Unless it's specifically forbidden then it's permitted.
 

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It can only be restricted on off-peak and super off-peak tickets. Anytime tickets always allow break of journey and stopping/starting short.
 
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