Fine awarded on way to a barriered station

[bababababababa]

On usual commute to Birmingham New Street from Lichfield Trent Valley, I have the past month of ticket receipts for my commute. New Street is a barriered station. This was the first time I have been fined and I clearly could not leave the station without a ticket. The train I usually take was cancelled so I took the train afterwards and forgot to book the train and got fined within 10 minutes of getting on. Would there be any chance in appealing this fine? (£50)

 

[SuspectUsual]

Can you show us the paperwork you were given (but with your details and the reference number blanked out) and then people will be better able to give you advice

 

[AlterEgo]

On usual commute to Birmingham New Street from Lichfield Trent Valley, I have the past month of ticket receipts for my commute. New Street is a barriered station. This was the first time I have been fined and I clearly could not leave the station without a ticket. The train I usually take was cancelled so I took the train afterwards and forgot to book the train and got fined within 10 minutes of getting on. Would there be any chance in appealing this fine? (£50)

Only on a technical basis, becuase that is a stonewall reason to issue a penalty fare. Please show us the notice with your name redacted.

 

[MarlowDonkey]

. The train I usually take was cancelled so I took the train afterwards and forgot to book the train and got fined within 10 minutes of getting on

Don't you mean "buy a ticket"? Are Advance tickets (those tied to a specific train) really available for a short commuter run?

Provided the ticket is "Anytime", it's usable on any train for that day.

 

[Haywain]

Provided the ticket is "Anytime", it's usable on any train for that day.

As long as it is bought before boarding a train.

 

[thejuggler]

Don't you mean "buy a ticket"? Are Advance tickets (those tied to a specific train) really available for a short commuter run?

Provided the ticket is "Anytime", it's usable on any train for that day.

I'm reading the OP doesn't buy tickets until last minute and as the train was cancelled hadn't bothered until the next service had arrived.

Advance tickets are available on very short commuter routes. I've bought them from Leeds to Kirkstall Forge - about 4 miles.

 

[WesternLancer]

On usual commute to Birmingham New Street from Lichfield Trent Valley, I have the past month of ticket receipts for my commute. New Street is a barriered station. This was the first time I have been fined and I clearly could not leave the station without a ticket. The train I usually take was cancelled so I took the train afterwards and forgot to book the train and got fined within 10 minutes of getting on. Would there be any chance in appealing this fine? (£50)

as well as the request to upload the copy of the Penalty Fare it might help to upload a copy of any ticket(s) you had for travel on the day this happened - blank out personal details / ref numbers and the ticket ref number

 

[island]

Don't you mean "buy a ticket"? Are Advance tickets (those tied to a specific train) really available for a short commuter run?

Not this specific one, but there are quite a range of short commuter runs with advance fares, particularly in Northern-land.

 

[andy33gmail]

To be fair, the tactic of verifying your train actually exists before buying your ticket makes sense … I sometimes do it if I want to arrive on time or abandon … but you still need to buy before stepping on

 

[SCDR_WMR]

To be fair, the tactic of verifying your train actually exists before buying your ticket makes sense … I sometimes do it if I want to arrive on time or abandon … but you still need to buy before stepping on

Bear in mind this is Lichfield to New St, on the pretty high frequency CrossCity Line. There is no excuse for not purchasing a ticket when arriving into the station through whatever means they wish.

 

[X-City-WM]

There are no advance tickets on the Cross City line. However, they are more expensive during the morning peak and can be cheaper on evenings (eg travelling after 7pm).

 

[z444z]

I think this discussion is just going to confuse things, this case is really simple. They were issued a penalty fare because they did not present a valid ticket, which is a perfectly valid reason to issue a penalty fare. It is possible however that a mistake was made when issuing the penalty fare that makes it invalid.

@bababababababa we need to see the penalty fare notice to be able to assist further. Redact your personal details but we need to see everything else.