Fife Circle 68's

[221129]

Any update on what would replace the current sets?

170s for the time being.

 

[Mathieu]

170s for the time being.

Hope it’ll be formed of 2x170s, it’s standing room with 5 Mk2s. Hate to see what that would be like with units

 

[37424]

it'd be interesting to see what they operated the service with. would they bring in more 67s? or would they operate it with 66s, or even 37s?

If they want to get and keep the contract I doubt they will using 37's any likely replacement loco Hauled train is likely to 67 or 68 hauled, the carriages have to be PRM compliant and need toilet retention tanks which would suggest using MK4 carriages perhaps, the bidder can also use DMU's if they can get hold of some.

 

[swt_passenger]

it'd be interesting to see what they operated the service with. would they bring in more 67s? or would they operate it with 66s, or even 37s?

I expect they can offer anything suitable that meets the specification, even a few DMUs:

“Each service will consist of a minimum of 370 standard class seats. There must be a minimum of 3 toilets per service, one of which shall be universally accessible. Vehicles must be fitted with toilet retention tanks and comply with the Persons of Reduced Mobility TSI [and other relevant legislation].

ASR is specifically seeking responses from suppliers who can provide a turnkey solution, ie. operate and maintain the rolling stock. We anticipate this will be through use of Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock with supplier providing loco, coaches, driver and maintenance. ASR will provide a conductor on each passenger service.

We may however consider the following options if these can be provided in a more cost effective and resilient manner:

- Diesel multiple units are offered on an appropriate lease. ASR will operate the services providing driver, conductor and maintenance staff as required;

- Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock is offered and leased directly by ASR. ASR maintain the stock. The supplier provides locomotive and driver with ASR providing a conductor on each passenger service.”

Extract from the document linked earlier in post #27.

 

[jopsuk]

in the thread we'd already had on this there was a calculation that on the current seating arrangement with Mark 4s 1x TSOE+1xTSOD+3xTSO is exactly 370 seats, which made it very clear what the supposedly "open" specification was after.