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Ffestiniog Round Robin 22/07/2013

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Here we go then, I've got some free time so may as well write this up in case anyone is thinking of doing a similar trip.

We'd been staying in Ludlow for the two nights before we went on this trip on holiday and stayed there for the rest of the week as a family (BTW if anyone is looking for a holiday cottage in Ludlow, I can strongly recommend this. It's only about 15 minutes walk from the station). Whenever we go on holiday I/we (it depends on what there is to do) try to do one day on the tracks.

It was my first time in the Welsh Marches (in fact my first time in the ATW operating area), so all of the units I mention below were new.

We left the house a little before 0800 to head to the station to get the 0817. Ludlow ticket office is very friendly (maybe something to do with it not being operated by ATW). We bought returns to Shrewsbury and more or less on time, 175005 pulls in and we get on. It's quite busy with some standees although two of us get a seat. The journey up through the hills around Church Stretton is really nice and surprisingly good (although the best was yet to come.) After a ticket check (so different from Southeastern :)) and a run through of the trolley, with a jolly man selling things, we reach Shrewsbury on time where we go down to the ticket office to buy the Round Robin tickets. There's a slight hitch when, on re-entering the platforms, the barrier staff questioned the fact that the Round Robin Family Ranger said it was valid for only one adult - (this would be a recurring theme for the remainder of the day.) Nonetheless, they agree the ticket is the right price and are very nice about it and we head up onto the platform. While we were waiting for the Porthmadog train, I managed to get this not very good shot of a NR 97 heading around the Foregate Curve.


Shortly after, 170634 arrived into the bay platform with a service from Birmingham.

Then 158840 and another 158 (never got it's number <() arrived with our train to the Cumbrian coast. The fact the train reversed and was going to divide at Machynlleth caused confusion to some passengers and I was surprised to see that the coach was quite full. That said, the schools had just broken up so I guess quite a lot were heading for a day out by the sea. The guard came around to check tickets and again questioned our ranger but didn't really care. The journey towards the coast was quite pleasant and we stopped for a moment at Tallerdig to allow another train to pass and then arrived into Machynlleth a few minutes early. The 1 hour 15 minutes journey went surprisingly quickly and before long, after the departure of the Aberystwyth portion, we proceeded. I was surprised to see someone alight at Dovey junction and then we curved north.

The landscape got hillier as we ran along the estuary and our stop at Penhelig caused some concern for the students opposite us who thought they were at Aberdovey and so made for the doors but the train moved off too soon and they were carried on to the place they thought that they'd missed :).

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Ok, here we go with Part 2:

The run along the Cambrian Coast is probably more scenic than Dawlish and it's sort of surprising that people seem obsessed with this line's Devonish counterpart when this is much longer and probably more scenic. The train is not too slow until we slow down for the crawl over the Barmouth bridge which provides some lovely views inland. Most people have got off by the time we leave Barmouth and the journey onwards is uneventful and we glimpsed the village of Portmeirion across the estuary. It seems along the line, we stopped at just about every request stop there is. We passed under the Ffestiniog Railway at Minnford before continuing into Pothmadog where we can get off after 3 and a quarter hours on the same 158. Here, we had a 50 minute connection across Porthmadog made easier by the fact we arrived a couple of minutes early at 1243.

On leaving the station, there's a Tesco on the right which is useful if you need to pick up lunch and then continued along the main road, which was very busy with holiday makers to the Ffestiniog Railway station. The train was 10 coaches long (the longest of the day most probably - I think there was a coach group also making the journey) and our engine was to to be Merridon Emrys which coupled to our train a few minutes before departure.

We were sitting in one of the carriages that is split in two with open sides and we took up half and a pair of American ladies took up the other half. After checking with the guard that our ticket was OK to get straight on, we left on time for the scenic run across the causeway and up into the hills. I knew that on arrival at Blaenau Ffestiniog we had a 12 minute connection which should be alright. As we climbed up the hill we gradually got a little bit later and later which meant I began to worry about whether we'd be stuck in Blaenau for about 3 hours to wait for the next train. The scenery was really impressive although in some places it was quite woody so you couldn't see much. The impressive points on the line are the causeway leaving Porthmadog, the loop over yourself at Ddault, and going through the tunnel and emerging over the reservoir. Fortunately my worries about missing the train to Llandudno Junction come to nothing as we arrive in to Blaenau 4 minutes late although there is a slight wait while the guard unlocks the doors.

Nonetheless, a brisk walk over he footbridge brings us to 150256 forming the service up to Llandudno Jn today. We nip on and we're off just 1 minute late and run into the longest single track tunnel in the UK. It being a hot day, the windows are open and the noise of the 150's engines and the clattering and screeching through the tunnel is rather impressive. I quite like the 150s - they seem to have more character than some of the modern Electrostars and Desiros.

To be continued
 
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Enjoying it so far, looks like a great trip.

I never knew about the ticket so thanks for sharing, I'll have to do a trip myself at some point.
 

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Enjoying it so far, looks like a great trip.

I never knew about the ticket so thanks for sharing, I'll have to do a trip myself at some point.

Glad to hear you're enjoying it!

Our 150 continued to make it's way up the scenic valley towards the sea. The train starts to get busier as we get nearer Llandudno Junction but we're delayed outside the station waiting for a late running train to Chester to pass before we pull across into platform/platfform 1 as the sign says. Here we have 50 minutes before our next train to Shrewsbury and so we had the chance to wander around the station a bit as 158s and the occasional 175 come and go.

While there, 150256 leaves towards Llandudno and returns a short while later heading back towards Blaenau. However, I was rather surprised to see it arrive into the bay platform. It's still there when 158835 arrives 9 minutes late to take us on. It turns out looking at Realtime Trains afterwards the train somehow eventually ran on to Betws-y-Coed and was terminated there, meaning that had that connection not been made back at Blaenau Ffestiniog, we would have been stuck there until 2023 and not made it back to Ludlow that evening (although we probably could have caught a bus to Llandudno Jn.) Anyway, unaware of the issues that we could have had if the Ffestiniog had been a few minutes later we sailed on along the North Wales Coast. Although quite a scenic line, it was rather overshadowed by the trains we'd taken already. The guard checks our tickets and makes a remark about the skills of the ticket office clerk in issuing the ticket. Our train was fast to Chester but we had caught up with the stopper so lost a further 11 minutes by Chester.

Arriving at Chester I catch a glimpse of a 507 or 508 arriving in the other side of the station. I hadn't seen a 507/8 since they operated down in Kent - that brings back memories. The train almost completely empties at Chester but was full with a bit of standing on leaving Chester and taking the single line towards Wrexham. The train begins to empty as we leave Wrexham, sighting Wrexham Central not that far away and running through pleasant scenery through Ruabon, Chirk and Gobowen, crossing over the impressive viaduct with the aqueduct just below and arrive into Shrewsbury 20 minutes late with three minutes until our train to Ludlow. It turns out that this train was also late and arrives with 158839 14 minutes late with the 1850 to Ludlow. The train is quite warm as the air con is broken but extra water was loaded at Shrewsbury and the guard and the trolley attendant distributed it to everyone as we left.

We finally arrive into Ludlow 14 minutes late at 1936 after a long, fun day on the rails.

Total mileage: 287m 59ch
Best line: Hard to say but probably the Ffestiniog
Total time on trains: 8h10m

Finally a few rail photos from the rest of my holiday!



 
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Really enjoyed the trip report, thanks for that :D I feel like I definitely need to do the ffestiniog now! :P

Also great pictures at the end, I'm very impressed. Is the fourth picture from Shrewsbury as well, it's especially good :D
 

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Searle:1631439 said:
Really enjoyed the trip report, thanks for that :D I feel like I definitely need to do the ffestiniog now! :P

Also great pictures at the end, I'm very impressed. Is the fourth picture from Shrewsbury as well, it's especially good :D

Glad you enjoyed it, and yes, the 158s in front of the signal box are indeed Shrewsbury, taken from the castle.
 

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I enjoyed this too. This is one of my favourite journeys (the RR bit) but generally do it in the other direction due to better timing if starting at Milton Keynes.

Never actually used the Round Robin ticket, though. Was it not possible to buy this in Ludlow at the start of the day? Was thinking of getting one next year to combine with a couple of cheap advances to Crewe and back from Shrewsbury.
 

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The shot of the trio of 158s is well impressive, I'll have to try for that next time I'm up there.

I've been meaning to do the Ffestiniog for years, it's one of several preserved lines in Wales I intend to do in a big trip up there in 2014 :)

Glad you enjoyed your visit to the Marches and North Wales :)
 

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I enjoyed this too. This is one of my favourite journeys (the RR bit) but generally do it in the other direction due to better timing if starting at Milton Keynes.

Never actually used the Round Robin ticket, though. Was it not possible to buy this in Ludlow at the start of the day? Was thinking of getting one next year to combine with a couple of cheap advances to Crewe and back from Shrewsbury.
I'd imagine that we probably could have got them at Ludlow and you *should* be able to get one at any station.

The shot of the trio of 158s is well impressive, I'll have to try for that next time I'm up there.

I've been meaning to do the Ffestiniog for years, it's one of several preserved lines in Wales I intend to do in a big trip up there in 2014 :)

Glad you enjoyed your visit to the Marches and North Wales :)

Thanks, unfortunately I didn't make it all the way down to Newport as the family decided they'd rather take a Voyager home to the SE than an HST <D
 

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I'd imagine that we probably could have got them at Ludlow and you *should* be able to get one at any station.

Issued at pretty much any station yes, but it's not valid from Ludlow sadly. Shrewsbury is the furthest south you can get it (unless you pay the £36 required if getting one from places like Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Manchester), so even for me getting onto the valid routes from Hereford it's still expensive enough just to get to Shrewsbury!

Even so, the Round Robin is good value at £31, so I may still use it anyway for my visit next year.

Thanks, unfortunately I didn't make it all the way down to Newport as the family decided they'd rather take a Voyager home to the SE than an HST <D

Ahhh, well to be fair once you're south of Abergavenny it's not that great, definitely so after Pontypool and New Inn. I've done the full length of the route more times than I care to count, and the Hereford to Newport sector WAY too often...

Personally I'd rate much more highly a trip down the Heart of Wales line, especially at this sort of time of year. Very nice scenery between Pantyfynnon and Craven Arms, and whilst the journey takes a good while it's definitely worth doing.
 
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Brilliant report, jnjkerbin. Ive been meaning to get one of these rovers from Manchester (wih a Y-P discount) but haven't got round to doing it yet - this has made me want to do it more :)

As has already been mentioned, the fourth picture at the end (the one of Severn Bridge Junction) is fantastic. You orght to send that in to one of the magazines, it's a good contender for the Photo pages :)
 

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Lovely :D I recall my own happy trip this summer, for which I had the good fortune to be able to stay in Crewe for a few nights, so got all the NW branches and the FR on a NW All Zones :D

Esp love the 6 car 158 at Shrewsbury going around that curve! :D
 

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Brilliant report, jnjkerbin. Ive been meaning to get one of these rovers from Manchester (wih a Y-P discount) but haven't got round to doing it yet - this has made me want to do it more :)

As has already been mentioned, the fourth picture at the end (the one of Severn Bridge Junction) is fantastic. You orght to send that in to one of the magazines, it's a good contender for the Photo pages :)

Lovely :D I recall my own happy trip this summer, for which I had the good fortune to be able to stay in Crewe for a few nights, so got all the NW branches and the FR on a NW All Zones :D

Esp love the 6 car 158 at Shrewsbury going around that curve! :D

Glad you both enjoyed the trip report! :)
 

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One more point I'd echo is that I found it really really difficult to choose the best area for scenery. I remember the view around Glan Conwy actually made me catch my breath because I wasn't expecting it... and I can't remember that ever happening before. Some of the views of the sun going down across the sparkling waters of the Irish Sea and the crossings of the three rivers as well as what I thought was a glimpse of Snowdon's Peak were outstanding also. However, like you, I don't think it could compete with the FR!!!

Oh, you've so made me want to go back now :D
 
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