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Since Germans think Germany has the worst rail system on earth, what do the Germany Fans like about our dirty expensive and late trains? ;)

Milton Keynes to London Euston yearly pass (74 km): £4,936.00
Entire German rail system yearly pass (over 30,000km): £3,513.44

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Milton Keynes to London Euston yearly pass (74 km): £4,936.00
Entire German rail system yearly pass (over 30,000km): £3,513.44

;)

You used to be able to compare to 26 x 14 Day All Line Rovers (26 x £1117 = £29,042) but even that now has peak restrictions, unlike the German equivalent.

However, from the tourist point of view, Interrail One Country Passes for Great Britain and Germany are in the same price band, so Germans buying a British one pay roughly the same as Brits buying a German one, the difference being due to exchange rate fluctuations.
 

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Just for comparison, similar walk on fare Prague to Ceske Budejovice- 169km- @ £6.00...

But then again, average net salaries in Switzerland are around seven times those of the Czech Republic. Great for travellers but hard to measure the real value for money.

If you're under 26 there's no better bargain than the Belgium Go Pass. You can do Liege to Ostend (circa 200km) at any time of day for a walk-up fare of £5.15.
 

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Indeed- and Swiss salaries are around 3 times UK salaries, yet their fares as posted by Gordon are roughly the same as ours. I suppose we would have to do an average pence per mile/average salaries comparison to maintain any balance, but by then we would be well into that dark and manipulateable world of statistics......

I was that bored I did it- that 160km journey would cost you around 1.2% of your average net wage in Switzerland (50 out of 4000Euro)(I need to move there lol), 1% in the Czech republic (8 out 800 Euro) and in the UK? Around 5% of the average net wage (90 quid out of 1830 GBP). Plus we don't have excellent family tickets like the Czechs Or Swiss. Make of that what u will, I reckon it's down to our overcrowded network.....
 
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Getting it back on-topic...

Of the railways I've visited, in Europe Switzerland has to be my favourite - heavy mixed traffic on the mainlines, spectacular narrow-gauge adhesion and rack operated lines, mountains, waterfalls, lakes, tinkling cowbells - what more do you need ?

On the other hand, if the 'diesel head' needs feeding, then I'd head for the US (or Canada) - big diesels and huge trains, great scenery, and (once you've got there) a relatively cheap place to explore. If it's a nice evening in a quiet spot in the mountains, listening to the noise of an approaching freight winding it's way towards you from miles away, then thundering past and - if you're lucky - followed by roar of the tail-end 'helper' locos receding into the distance is just pure theatre (or is that theater? ;))...
 

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Centraal Station in Amsterdam... There is a little coffee shop upstairs on the platforms that has great views - me and the owner are somewhat old friends

Just for clarity, this being Amsterdam, is this a coffee shop for drinking coffee or a "coffee shop" in the Dutch sense of the word?
 

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Your post does suggest that it would be easy to find a 'coffee' shop in the Netherlands, as if there's one on every street!

Admittedly, my visit to Amsterdam was more of one to set up base camp in the suburbs and start firing away with my InterRail the following morning, so I didn't do the touristy thing and explore Amsterdam properly. I would still say the stereotype of the city being, umm, under the influence is grossly unfair, everyone I met was completely normal. If you want to do that sort of thing, there's no doubt plenty of places you could do so, I know there must be as I know people who've come back from Amsterdam who sampled the 'culture'.

I need to go back to Amsterdam though, as I never got to properly sample the Metro and didn't see any of the trams. I also need to visit Centraal station there.

As for the Germany debate, I had no issues with the DB railway on my shorter-than-intended visit (I should have a trip report here somewhere, I believe this was the enormous 'Tech's Four Countries' bash in 2013, that'll explain all) although my knowledge of German had all but disappeared from the memory banks so I was glad to have my German book with me. More so the guy on the information point knew English well enough to help me! I'm going to have to find that trip report for a read again, indeed I must have a look on my Flickr and trip down Memory Lane at the photos!

Anyway, point there was that my visit to Germany was insufficient to comment fairly on the UK vs Germany thing. My very limited (to one journey!) experience with SJ in Sweden, however, was more impressionable and I would prefer to visit Sweden again over Germany. I would research those loco-hauled services I saw those, that could be good fun.

Oh dear, here we go again, I want to go to Europe again now...
 

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Coffee as in the drink... It also sells Ben and Jerry's ice cream and brownies

Thanks for that. My mother nearly made the obvious mistake when we were in Amsterdam:
"Do you think it's time for elevenses? There's a nice-looking coffee shop just over there."
"No, mum, we need to look for a cafe."

I've got quite a soft spot for the Dutch system - a great selection of quite ugly-looking multiple units, and a nationwide "Oyster" card (OV-chipkaart) which even covers hiring a bike done out in NS blue and yellow colours.
http://www.ns.nl/en/door-to-door/ov-fiets/the-new-ov-fiets.html
 

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Your post does suggest that it would be easy to find a 'coffee' shop in the Netherlands, as if there's one on every street!

Admittedly, my visit to Amsterdam was more of one to set up base camp in the suburbs and start firing away with my InterRail the following morning, so I didn't do the touristy thing and explore Amsterdam properly. I would still say the stereotype of the city being, umm, under the influence is grossly unfair, everyone I met was completely normal. If you want to do that sort of thing, there's no doubt plenty of places you could do so, I know there must be as I know people who've come back from Amsterdam who sampled the 'culture'.

I need to go back to Amsterdam though, as I never got to properly sample the Metro and didn't see any of the trams. I also need to visit Centraal station there.

As for the Germany debate, I had no issues with the DB railway on my shorter-than-intended visit (I should have a trip report here somewhere, I believe this was the enormous 'Tech's Four Countries' bash in 2013, that'll explain all) although my knowledge of German had all but disappeared from the memory banks so I was glad to have my German book with me. More so the guy on the information point knew English well enough to help me! I'm going to have to find that trip report for a read again, indeed I must have a look on my Flickr and trip down Memory Lane at the photos!

Anyway, point there was that my visit to Germany was insufficient to comment fairly on the UK vs Germany thing. My very limited (to one journey!) experience with SJ in Sweden, however, was more impressionable and I would prefer to visit Sweden again over Germany. I would research those loco-hauled services I saw those, that could be good fun.

Oh dear, here we go again, I want to go to Europe again now...

There is a certain area of Amsterdam that features these coffee shops. If you walk down the main Damm st into the centre you will not see them. If you head into the red light area there are a 'few' around. Or so I've been told. :oops:
 

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In several cities in the Netherlands it is not allowed to have a coffeeshop within 200 to 250 meters from a school. This is the soft drugs version of a coffeeshop. We have even a startingpage about Coffee. Although it is here called koffie.

http://koffie.startpagina.nl/

Nicest line in the Netherlands:
Maastricht - Kerkrade (hills)
Utrecht - Den Bosch (4 bridges)
Arnhem - Nijmegen (short, but 2 huge bridges)
Amersfoort - Apeldoorn (forest)

The Netherlands does not have much to offer for scenic railways. It is smooth and fast.
 
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