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WCML

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What a sorry state the place is in. I didn't get much of the fuss about the need for rebuilding it, I previously used to pass through between 5 and 10 times a year, but now I have to pass through most days, I've noticed what an absolute state the place is in.

Since the hot weather has arrived, the train shed absolutely stinks. I feel sorry for anyone that has to work around the area near platform 1-3 and where Camden Food co. is because the smell blows into the concourse there and it is foul to walk through to catch a train, let alone hang around for any period of time.

All of the platforms are filthy, they are in desperate need of pressure washing at the very least. There's spillage from the bins on the platforms that just doesn't get cleaned up and is left to get caked onto the surface and contributes to the stench. The whole trainshed smells like the rear of a bin lorry - its shocking!

Then theres the canopies, where the paint is flaking off the metal, and the knackered ceiling panels under the departure boards and the ramps to the platforms.

Other than the outlets changing, a bit of work to the first class lounge and the display screens changing, has the place seen any maintenance work whatsoever since the 60s?

I seem to remember them doing a bit of work to the Virgin ticket hall a few years back, but obviously not a lot was done at all, to the extent that there's still 'Asbestos Hazard' warning stickers on panels on the wall.

It's an awful terminal and something needs to be done to bring it up to standard, especially considering the number of passengers that use it.
 
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Is EUS the new BHM?

Birmingham New Street (BHM) was in a far better state in its pre-refurbishment days than Euston is now. The main factor being that there wasn't such a suffocating smell on the platforms!
 

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It's not that bad. Aesthetically is ugly but I think the design was more forward thinking for a 60s station. The segregated walkway where the passengers are and the boards is a very cleaver idea IMO! However I think the old design has been outgrown and with the promise of the HS2 revamp any investment has been held off until then. There's an article on the virgin trains website calling for some kind of improvement but I can't really see what they can do. I mean if the stations effectively going to be rebuilt then there's no need for a kings cross new concourse. I think it just needs some love! Maybe over several nights they could systematically dee clean each platform, repaint the concrete, install better lighting and give the station a bit of attention. After a couple of months you may not have a perfect station but it might be a bit better?
 

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I actually quite like Euston! Agreed that the platforms themselves are just dismal, but you're not in the platform area for long. The concourse itself is surprisingly elegant for its period though. If all the garden sheds and lean-to's were removed - a la Waterloo - then it would be even better. The problems Euston has are down to the way the TOCs operate rather than the architecture. (I'm thinking about the crowds milling around beneath the departure boards before the mad dash to the platform.)

Not sure where the plans for Euston are now though. There was talk at one time of the entire station being swept away to accomodate HS - even of rebuilding the Euston Arch (pedants nota bene - yes I do know it's not actually an arch! ;)) But recently NetworkRail seem to have ditched the idea of a total rebuild.
 
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Euston station is an excellent practical design - so good that RENFE copied the design for Sants station in Barcelona. The problem with Euston is the lack of proper cleaning and maintenance and the acreage of bare concrete. A damn good clean and several licks of paint could easily transform it.
 

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Just to say, Asbestos isn't always best removed.

If it is in good condition then it is best to leave well alone. Disturbing it could release dust. Hence the stickers.

In all fairness it sounds like the place could do with a wash and brush up.

Considering the use it gets, that's hardly a surprise.
 

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Euston station is an excellent practical design - so good that RENFE copied the design for Sants station in Barcelona. The problem with Euston is the lack of proper cleaning and maintenance and the acreage of bare concrete. A damn good clean and several licks of paint could easily transform it.
Of course, all that bare concrete was the fashion at the time.

Some great shots of the then brand-new Euston, at the start of this BTF film The Pain Train.

[youtube]9E6CQUrP7Lg[/youtube]
 

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I like the calm assurance of the commentator to the film, "... nothing can stop it leaving in 20 minutes time - precisely 20 minutes time". A member of the Murray Walker school of prediction - "... and he literally cannot lose!" CRUNCH "What am I saying?"
 

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Not sure where the plans for Euston are now though. There was talk at one time of the entire station being swept away to accomodate HS - even of rebuilding the Euston Arch (pedants nota bene - yes I do know it's not actually an arch! ;)) But recently NetworkRail seem to have ditched the idea of a total rebuild.

The plans are online here, incidentally, the work of HS2 Ltd not Network Rail whose own plan to rebuild the station was superseded by the project - instead of a complete rebuild, most of the existing platforms will be retained alongside those for HS2 with both served by a new, much larger concourse. I don't believe this change has any effect on the suggestions for rebuilding the Euston Arch.

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The plans are online here, incidentally, the work of HS2 Ltd not Network Rail whose own plan to rebuild the station was superseded by the project - instead of a complete rebuild, most of the existing platforms will be retained alongside those for HS2 with both served by a new, much larger concourse. I don't believe this change has any effect on the suggestions for rebuilding the Euston Arch.

Chris

I had completely forgotten that NetworkRail's own plans for Euston pre-dated the HS plans! Now that salient point has been pointed out, what I have read recently makes altogether more sense! :oops:
 

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One thing that would help is a direct underground link to Euston Square Tube station

Correct though you undoubtedly are, those of us who are smokers actually find the five minute walk down the Euston Road quite convenient - even in the rain! ;)
 

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Birmingham New Street (BHM) was in a far better state in its pre-refurbishment days than Euston is now. The main factor being that there wasn't such a suffocating smell on the platforms!

The difference being that at Euston you don't wait for your train on the platform like you do at New Street, so it isn't so much of a problem.
 

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Euston is an interesting station - the concourse is nearly excellent but the retail in it is excessive and there is not really space for it however, given the revenue it brings it is understandable.

I believe the platform arrangements were only ever temporary with the original plan being to build a hospital over them but this never happened hence the unfinished feel to them. I would have built retail over them with access to three or four points along the platforms - something which would have both eased the pressure on the concourse (the ticket office could also have been relocated here) and give an entrance from the Camden end.

Its not a bad place but time has overtaken it.
 
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