Euston to Tottenham Stadium

[tigerroar]

What is the best way with the least walking?

I see Victoria Line to Seven Sisters then out of the station to National Rail but it's two seperate stations?
Also Euston Square to Liverpool Street then direct to White Hart Lane. It's Overground so I don't need to buy a ticket, is that right? Just use contactless?
Is it a shorter walk to do Euston to Moorgate Northern Line then walk to Liverpool Street as opposed to walking from Euston to Euston Square?

Thanks.

 

[Kite159]

Victoria line from Euston to Seven Sisters to change for the overground to White Hart Lane.

Seven Sisters is behind the same gateline, just follow the signs for the Overground (exit near the back of the train in the direction of travel).

 

[W-on-Sea]

Euston > Euston Square is a substantially shorter walk than Moorgate (especially the deep level platforms)>Liverpool St

 

[Mcr Warrior]

If exiting at Seven Sisters, it's a fair old 25-30 min walk to the stadium, so, if instead, you're interchanging and travelling onwards to White Hart Lane station on a match or event day, best note that it'll potentially be rather busy!

 

[tigerroar]

It won't be a matchday, it's for a stadium tour. I've no intention of walking from Seven Sisters. Euston Square looks like the best option.

 

[BJames]

Victoria line from Euston to Seven Sisters to change for the overground to White Hart Lane.

Seven Sisters is behind the same gateline, just follow the signs for the Overground (exit near the back of the train in the direction of travel).

This is, undeniably, the quickest option (I live on this line).

I would agree that I tend to either try and avoid the busiest times on matchdays, but as OP has said it is a non-matchday - use Euston underground for the Victoria Line to Seven Sisters, upstairs to the overground. It is about 9-10 mins on the Victoria line Euston to Seven Sisters. It is a (short) set of stairs and two escalators up to the overground and then a 4 minute journey on the overground.

Note that the trains to White Hart Lane from Liverpool Street run through Seven Sisters, and it takes 22 minutes from Liverpool Street to White Hart Lane. The overground on this line runs every 15 minutes, slightly more frequently in peak times.

You are indeed correct that you can use contactless for your whole journey.

 

[duncanp]

If you are not going on a match day, you also have the option of catching a bus (nos. 149, 259, 279 and 349) from outside Seven Sisters station (Stop D) which will drop you off right outside the stadium.

This would minimise the walking even further, and your contactless card can be used on the bus.

 

[tigerroar]

Interesting about the bus. I'd never consider going on a bus in London. Is it generally cheaper than rail?

 

[duncanp]

Interesting about the bus. I'd never consider going on a bus in London. Is it generally cheaper than rail?

The single bus fare is £1.75.

If you wanted to go by bus all the way, you can take bus 259 from Stop G in York Way by the side of Kings Cross station, and that will drop you right outside Tottenham Stadium.

You can either walk from Euston, or take one of several bus routes from Euston to Kings Cross. Buses in London do not take cash, but you can pay with a contactless card, or a suitably enabled smartphone or smartwatch.

The hopper fare system in London means that you only pay £1.75 for all journeys made within one hour of touching in on the first bus. So if you got a bus from Euston to Kings Cross, and then another one from Kings Cross to Tottenham Stadium, it would cost a total of £1.75 rather than £3.50.

 

[tigerroar]

and out of curiosity how much to make the same trip on the train(s)? I noted it's a £9 return from Liverpool Street to WHL. So the entire return bus trip would be £3.50?

Added to that, do people know the bus system off by heart like they do the underground and overground?

 

[Enthusiast]

Added to that, do people know the bus system off by heart like they do the underground and overground?

I would be very surprised if there was anybody who knew the entire London bus network by heart. There are getting on for 700 routes covering a vast area. However, many people have a fairly good knowledge of small parts of the system. I have a reasonably good grasp of bus routes in Central London (the West End and the City). There are a few holes in my knowledge mainly as a result of TfL's best efforts to make so many changes that I have difficulty keeping up!

The Underground system is a little easier to grasp. There are only eleven lines covering 272 stations. I know quite a few people who know the entire system by heart. I am fortunate to be one of them. My interest, and the basis of my knowledge, stems from planning and completing the "Tube Challenge" many years ago. This involves visiting all the stations in a single day and it took a lot of planning, visiting interchanges to note the exits and interchange points and identifying the best connecting routes outside the system.

 

[Kite159]

and out of curiosity how much to make the same trip on the train(s)? I noted it's a £9 return from Liverpool Street to WHL. So the entire return bus trip would be £3.50?

Added to that, do people know the bus system off by heart like they do the underground and overground?

£9 might be the paper ticket price, looking at the single fare finder on the TfL website and it's £3 each way off-peak using contactless.

 

[yorkie]

and out of curiosity how much to make the same trip on the train(s)? I noted it's a £9 return from Liverpool Street to WHL. So the entire return bus trip would be £3.50?

Is threre a particular reason you wish to go via Moorgate/Liverpool Street?

It's quicker to simply change at Seven Sisters and as mentioned above the through fare from Euston is £3 (off peak) or £3.70 (peak) each way contactless.

You could go by bus for £1.75 (you'd need to change, e.g. at King's Cross) which may be of use if you have mobility issues, but it's much slower.

 

[Cricketer8for9]

Full scale tube knowledge is not that rare, uncommon of course, but not unknown even among the non-transport nerd population. This is because living car free in London is not looked down upon as it seems to be in much of the rest of the UK. There’s pride in knowing one’s way around. Full scale bus knowledge is much rarer - as said above it requires much more knowledge - 700+ routes etc. I’m pretty good, but, I suspect a little out of date on routes and certainly nowhere near up to date on frequencies.

I have a work colleague from Northern Ireland who proudly said that she’s getting to know her way around without Google Maps - and mentioned bus route options on a tube strike day with some pride. She has a licence but no car; she and her flat mates rent their drive to pay for a cleaner.

 

[tigerroar]

£9 might be the paper ticket price, looking at the single fare finder on the TfL website and it's £3 each way off-peak using contactless.

I just checked on trainline. It always feels weird to me getting on a train without a ticket. I went from Queens Park to Kenton on the Bakerloo / Overground and the next train in was an Overground one and it felt wrong to me that I was on a "proper" train without a ticket!

If I was starting from KX instead of Euston I think I'd take the bus for the experience but personally I'm all about trains and prefer to use trains. I don't think I've ever been out of Liverpool Street either.

 

[tigerroar]

Is threre a particular reason you wish to go via Moorgate/Liverpool Street?

It seems like quite a walk from the underground to the overground at Seven Sisters according to google maps https://goo.gl/maps/rshysEx1PEMkJwVSA although someone has said that they're behind the same gate line

 

[yorkie]

It seems like quite a walk from the underground to the overground at Seven Sisters according to google maps https://goo.gl/maps/rshysEx1PEMkJwVSA

It's not far to walk between platforms; escalators are available.

although someone has said that they're behind the same gate line

That's correct, you do not pass through any ticket gates while interchanging (though that can be true of some long interchanges, that's not the case here)

 

[BJames]

It seems like quite a walk from the underground to the overground at Seven Sisters according to google maps https://goo.gl/maps/rshysEx1PEMkJwVSA although someone has said that they're behind the same gate line

There are two entrances to the Victoria Line at Seven Sisters (but only one to overground), so this map is showing different exits. You will not need to actually exit the station or walk down the road at all - access to the Victoria Line is also available at the entrace showing the overground and national rail symbols. If you are at the rear of the victoria line train in the direction of travel you will be by the correct exit; follow the signs, it is made clear which is the overground exit.

Note if you go via Liverpool Street this does of course involve going through gatelines - the Overground services depart from the main concourse (usually Platforms 1-7). This way does have the added benefit of additional facilities in Liverpool Street mainline station over Seven Sisters, but as the trains are at most 15 minutes apart this probably makes little difference.

 

[Cricketer8for9]

Interesting how different worlds create different thoughts. I doubt I’ve had a paper ticket in London for at least four years, other than for the occasional journey to those worlds which don’t have contactless.

 

[tigerroar]

There are two entrances to the Victoria Line at Seven Sisters (but only one to overground), so this map is showing different exits. You will not need to actually exit the station or walk down the road at all - access to the Victoria Line is also available at the entrace showing the overground and national rail symbols. If you are at the rear of the victoria line train in the direction of travel you will be by the correct exit; follow the signs, it is made clear which is the overground exit.

Note if you go via Liverpool Street this does of course involve going through gatelines - the Overground services depart from the main concourse (usually Platforms 1-7). This way does have the added benefit of additional facilities in Liverpool Street mainline station over Seven Sisters, but as the trains are at most 15 minutes apart this probably makes little difference.

Thanks, this helps a lot. Euston to Severn Sisters then overground to WHL it is. Might go straight back to Liverpool Street after though

 

[tigerroar]

Looking at the google maps with the Victoria Line embedded on it it seems that it runs underneath the Severn Sisters Road and the platforms are there too.

 

[Kite159]

Google Maps sometimes has issues with entrances to the underground stations. For an easier change be at the Brixton end/rear of the Victoria line

 

[Starmill]

I just checked on trainline.

Trainline are a very poor choice for anyone who wants the best prices for their journey. Even National Rail Enquiries warn that there's a cheaper option than buying a ticket here but trainline don't.

Of course if you just want speed and convenience and are more concerned about that than price, then trainline are a decent option.

 

[tigerroar]

You say that but I've checked them and also the TOC and they always give the same prices.

 

[Hadders]

I don't recommend using Trainline to purchase tickets, they are never cheaper.

Also for travel wholly within London paper tickets are never cheaper (there is the odd niche occasion but we don't need to worry about that for the purposes of this here). Almost everyone uses contactless or Oyster and has done for many years. If you aren't familiar with London not having a physical ticket in your hand can seem starnge but it works exceptionally well.

 

[tigerroar]

Youtube is an unbelievable resource, sometimes I feel like I don't need to leave my front door to see the world!

 

[duncanp]

Youtube is an unbelievable resource, sometimes I feel like I don't need to leave my front door to see the world!

You can see the bus pass right by Tottenham Stadium just under 45 minutes into the video, which gives you some idea of how long the journey would take in normal traffic conditions.

On the way back, you could get the bus from outside the stadium to Seven Sisters station, and then get on the tube.

 

[tigerroar]

Just a little bump. Enjoyed my trip to Tottenham yesterday, thanks for the help. It seemed to be quicker to go from Euston to WHL (ignoring the wait at Seven Sisters) as it did direct from WHL to Liverpool Street. Amazing VFM though, just £3 out and £3 back including continuation to Covent Garden.

Tottenham Stadium is amazing. I had a nice long sit down in Antonio Conte's heated seat!

 

[Cricketer8for9]

The Victoria line is v quick, and the line into Liverpool St has many more stops in Zone 2 than is commonly the case for National Rail services.

 

[tigerroar]

Yes, it felt more like a hyperloop than a tube train!