Euston 'level decking' and over-throat development - post-Higgins plans

[zoomwhoosh]

All that extra walking will do ya good!

Incidentally, does anyone have a link to the DDD2 plan?

 

[MarkyT]

The accesses are part way along the train rather than the traditional position behind the buffer stops, so anyone wanting to go to the Tube has a longer walk and anyone for St Pancras will have to go south to the buffer stops before turning east, passing both stations and setting off down Euston Road or Brill Place.

Depends on where you are in the train. There appears to be an entrance to the LU levels further north in the spine building, whose basement the LU complex seems to occupy.

Ideally CR2 should be integrated with the proposed Underground accesses, including an unpaid passage to St Pancras, rather than just an afterthought. If you believe TfL then CR2 will take huge numbers of passengers from HS2 so passenger flow is critical. A convenient walk to St Pancras important politically because it is the only link between the domestic and international high speed networks. So the station won't be seen as successful unless both are got right.

I agree completely. In addition to International connections, a good pedestrian link also ties HS2 directly and conveniently to Thameslink and the Kent HS1 domestics. Old Oak Common may or may not be served by West London Line routed trains as far Croydon (if the Milton Keynes service could be diverted that way somehow), but the Euston - St Pancras walk could still represent a more convenient interchange between HS2 and much of the Brighton Line including Gatwick Airport and the seaside terminus itself as well as other south London destinations.

The latest plan looks realistic however, recognising the eastward link is probably going to have to wait until after the first phase and might sensibly coincide with the Crossrail 2 station and at least the Spine Building part of the HS2 Phase 2 proposals, linked by a new northern concourse for the classic station with access to all platforms. The remains of the classic concourse at the south end of the station would then be the final stage of development.

 

[zoomwhoosh]

Incidentally did I miss something here. Are they keeping the HS1/HS2 connecting tracks? Or not?

 

[The Planner]

No, they won't be put in, but I doubt they, and the ability to put them in, will ever be completely off the table.

 

[edwin_m]

Is there any provision for a junction in the tunnel between Old Oak and Euston for any future HS1 connection?

 

[swt_passenger]

Is there any provision for a junction in the tunnel between Old Oak and Euston for any future HS1 connection?

There shouldn't need to be junctions in the tunnels, the link line to HS1 started between the up and down lines at the London end of the OOC HS2 station box, it was going to have its own tunnel.