Euston > Kings Cross underground transfer

[DarloRich]

May I ask some advice:

I have a temporarily mobility limited and increasingly elderly relative visiting me in a few weeks. They will be driven down to me but thier return journey is MKC > Euston > Kings Cross > York. They have specifically chosen that route as they "know" Kings Cross and prefer the LNER trains to XC and TPE is "always" disrupted!

My question is what is the shortest/easiest route by tube from Euston to Kings Cross including the walk within the station? They are mobile but limited in speed and distance hence why they cant walk between the stations and being Yorkshire they wont pay for a cab They don't need mobility assistance ( or more accurately wont ask for it) but do need extra time for any walking part of the journey

TIA!

 

[Bletchleyite]

In that direction I'd go with the bus (205 but there are also others). Pretty much door to door and step free. Any Tube route between the two involves almost as much walking as just walking all the way. At Euston go out of the left hand exit and straight on past the left hand side of Nando's to reach the bus station without steps and you want the stop that's in front of you to the right for buses to KX.

If elderly make sure they remember their ENCTS pass as then the bus is free. Just show it to the driver as TfL ticket machines can't read them (unless that's changed).

 

[transportphoto]

I’d agree with @Bletchleyite.

Tube options are either deep level routes which involve lots of walking to get to the tube, a thirty second tube ride, and then back out the other side, or walk to Euston Square negotiate your way into the station, and then back out at Kings Cross.

 

[Russel]

They have specifically chosen that route as they "know" Kings Cross and prefer the LNER trains to XC and TPE is "always" disrupted!

I think we can all understand why they think that!

But I'd also like to recommend the 205, by the time you've got down on to the Vic/Northern platforms at Euston, you could be on the bus.

 

[DarloRich]

But I'd also like to recommend the 205, by the time you've got down on to the Vic/Northern platforms at Euston, you could be on the bus.

is it accessible and easy to find? There will be walking stick involved!

 

[65477]

is it accessible and easy to find? There will be walking stick involved!

See tfl site here

Euston Bus Station

Live arrivals for Euston Bus Station stop.

tfl.gov.uk

 

[yorkie]

is it accessible and easy to find? There will be walking stick involved!

The bus station at Euston is at the station front and couldn't be easier.

I'd certainly not be taking a train between the two stations; as others have said, it's either a case of take the bus, or walk the whole way, nothing else makes sense!

 

[Tetchytyke]

is it accessible and easy to find? There will be walking stick involved!

Dead easy, the bus stops right outside Euston and drops you off right outside Kings Cross.

It's worth noting it is a bit more involved on the Kings Cross to Euston direction as the bus stops are on the opposite side of Euston Road to the two stations.

 

[david1212]

In that direction I'd go with the bus (205 but there are also others). Pretty much door to door and step free. .....

If elderly make sure they remember their ENCTS pass as then the bus is free. Just show it to the driver as TfL ticket machines can't read them (unless that's changed).

I thought there was a bus specifically for rail passengers that ran between the major stations presumably both clockwise & anticlockwise? Has it been discontinued? My thought for this specific journey is potentially quieter and maybe a full length single decker so more available seats than downstairs on a Borismaster.

While here if the passenger has an ENCTS pass that covers the fare is ( was ) a ' Maltese Cross ' ticket valid on the bus linking the rail stations?

 

[Tetchytyke]

thought there was a bus specifically for rail passengers that ran between the major stations presumably both clockwise & anticlockwise?

Not for about 30 years (ETA: 23 years to be exact. What is now the 205 was Stationlink in a past life).

While here if the passenger has an ENCTS pass that covers the fare is ( was ) a ' Maltese Cross ' ticket valid on the bus linking the rail stations?

No.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I thought there was a bus specifically for rail passengers that ran between the major stations presumably both clockwise & anticlockwise? Has it been discontinued? My thought for this specific journey is potentially quieter and maybe a full length single decker so more available seats than downstairs on a Borismaster.

This hasn't existed for something like 20 years. The present 205 is a partial replacement for it (the southern section had the 705 replacing it but that was poorly used and didn't last more than a year or two).

 

[DarloRich]

The bus station at Euston is at the station front and couldn't be easier.

I'd certainly not be taking a train between the two stations; as others have said, it's either a case of take the bus, or walk the whole way, nothing else makes sense!

Dead easy, the bus stops right outside Euston and drops you off right outside Kings Cross.

It's worth noting it is a bit more involved on the Kings Cross to Euston direction as the bus stops are on the opposite side of Euston Road to the two stations.

Thanks chaps. I will point them in the direction of the bus station. They have a bus pass. They aren't really up to the walk.

I just walk it so don't really know the bus OR tube!

 

[edwin_m]

While here if the passenger has an ENCTS pass that covers the fare is ( was ) a ' Maltese Cross ' ticket valid on the bus linking the rail stations?

Started a thread on the general topic of why the Maltese Cross tickets aren't valid by bus.

London terminals transfers - why not by bus?

The bus station at Euston is at the station front and couldn't be easier. I'd certainly not be taking a train between the two stations; as others have said, it's either a case of take the bus, or walk the whole way, nothing else makes sense! While here if the passenger has an ENCTS pass that...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[davews]

Remind them also that the ENCTS pass won't scan on the machines on London buses, they just need to wave it at the driver when they get on.

 

[DerekC]

I must say I would have thought a change at New Street onto XC would be better for someone with limited mobility, although you do have to negotiate going up the concourse level and getting down again.

 

[Russel]

I must say I would have thought a change at New Street onto XC would be better for someone with limited mobility, although you do have to negotiate going up the concourse level and getting down again.

For anyone with limited mobility, suggesting XC is an awful idea, the risk of having to stand in a vestibule isn't worth taking.

Yes, before anyone mentions it, I know you can reserve seats, but getting to your reserved seats on XC can be challenging at times to say the least.

 

[ian1944]

Yes, the Euston to KC bus. No, the change at Birmingham NS. Nowt to do with being Yorkies, anyone with limited mobility and unfamiliarity with the horrible place should give it a miss, quite apart from dodging XC trains.

 

[duffield]

Yes, the Euston to KC bus. No, the change at Birmingham NS. Nowt to do with being Yorkies, anyone with limited mobility and unfamiliarity with the horrible place should give it a miss, quite apart from dodging XC trains.

Actually there is the possibility of changing at Tamworth, straight up in the lift to the high level platform. I'd say that was pretty much the ideal route for the mobility impaired, and takes about the same time as via London - if it wasn't for the Cross Country overcrowding issue.

If you could just guarantee it would be a double unit on the day...

 

[Failed Unit]

Is crossing the Euston Road at King’s Cross that bad? It tended to use the lights at the right of King’s Cross. You also have the circle line subway.

Other question is how much would a taxi be? (Although it sounds like the mobility isn’t that bad)

 

[sh24]

Taxi will be £7-8 - that would be my first choice followed by the 205 bus.

 

[WolvertonWorks]

is it accessible and easy to find? There will be walking stick involved!

I caught the 205 yesterday - was going further up City Road than KX.

After reading this thread I was looking at the journey from your relative's perspective.

Take a 10 o'clock-ish direction on exiting Euston towards the lh end of the building in front of you, (Nandos'?) and walk along the side between buildings for a few yards. At the end you are at the Euston bus stands - turn right and the 205 stop is obvious. Stop D I think it was.

One thing to note - I couldn't remember which of the other routes from that stop went as far along the 205 route as I wanted to go so we waited for a 205 - they are not as frequent as the others, the 30 and 73 IIRC, and we let about three buses go before a 205 came along. I think she can just get on whichever of the buses that stop there comes along as they all stop at the British Library and then KX and then turn off further along the route.

 

[Russel]

I caught the 205 yesterday - was going further up City Road than KX.

After reading this thread I was looking at the journey from your relative's perspective.

Take a 10 o'clock-ish direction on exiting Euston towards the lh end of the building in front of you, (Nandos'?) and walk along the side between buildings for a few yards. At the end you are at the Euston bus stands - turn right and the 205 stop is obvious. Stop D I think it was.

One thing to note - I couldn't remember which of the other routes from that stop went as far along the 205 route as I wanted to go so we waited for a 205 - they are not as frequent as the others, the 30 and 73 IIRC, and we let about three buses go before a 205 came along. I think she can just get on whichever of the buses that stop there comes along as they all stop at the British Library and then KX and then turn off further along the route.

Good advice.

Just double-checked bustimes.org, both the 30 and 73 connect Euston and Kings Cross along with the 205, so it's a case of getting which ever turns up first.

As a bonus, they all look to leave from stand D as well.

 

[DarloRich]

I caught the 205 yesterday - was going further up City Road than KX.

After reading this thread I was looking at the journey from your relative's perspective.

Take a 10 o'clock-ish direction on exiting Euston towards the lh end of the building in front of you, (Nandos'?) and walk along the side between buildings for a few yards. At the end you are at the Euston bus stands - turn right and the 205 stop is obvious. Stop D I think it was.

One thing to note - I couldn't remember which of the other routes from that stop went as far along the 205 route as I wanted to go so we waited for a 205 - they are not as frequent as the others, the 30 and 73 IIRC, and we let about three buses go before a 205 came along. I think she can just get on whichever of the buses that stop there comes along as they all stop at the British Library and then KX and then turn off further along the route.

Good advice.

Just double-checked bustimes.org, both the 30 and 73 connect Euston and Kings Cross along with the 205, so it's a case of getting which ever turns up first.

As a bonus, they all look to leave from stand D as well.

excellent - thank you. I did think of going down to Euston with them but I think they will be fine.

 

[yorkie]

.... I couldn't remember which of the other routes from that stop went as far along the 205 route as I wanted to go so we waited for a 205 - they are not as frequent as the others, the 30 and 73 IIRC,...

Google Maps is good for this:

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.

www.google.com

Numbers 205, 30 & 73 all seem to go to the optimal bus stop (there are other numbers that go to other stops nearby)